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10-16-2015, 05:08 PM | #142 |
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Don't get me wrong, there is less visibility than other vehicles. The windows are small, the belt is high. It's not the pope mobile, but I don't expect it to be.
I think the biggest thing is, do you feel safe in it? Do you feel confident that you can drive it and not cut people off, or worse, run into people? For me and my '14, I certainly do. I have never turned on my blinker to change lanes without knowing if somebody was there or not. When I first got it, I realized how much less I could see over my shoulders than in my Charger. However, that only made me realize how cognizant I am of my surroundings. I know if there is somebody in my blind spot, because I saw them move there - people don't just appear in the blind spot. However, because I am fallible and a creature of habit, I still look over my shoulders. Thus far, nobody has been there when I didn't expect them to be, but better safe than crunchy.
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10-16-2015, 05:49 PM | #143 |
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Just to be clear, your mirrors don't help you backing out of your driveway onto a busy street.
You can depend on technology all you want with blind spot systems and you can ensure a child isn't behind you with a rear view camera. Numerous situations are not improved with mirrors or technology. In the end, all things being equal, visibility will be a deciding factor for many buyers. And in this case, the Camaros superior performance will offset that decision. Poor outward visibility makes a car feel smaller, more cramped. And for people that aren't on this website everyday who don't run to the Chevy dealer to drool over new products, this WILL be a deciding factor for purchase. How many people do you know that go, "ya know, I'm seriously looking for a car with a high belt line, a slammed roof and really tiny quarter windows. I'm just tired of seeing what is around me". I'll vote few to none. Most of us here just want a better Camaro. They gave us that. I wanted a GREAT Camaro. And GM missed. JMO and I understand why some just don't give a crap about this. I don't understand those that are making it a personal and emotional issue.
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10-16-2015, 08:35 PM | #144 | |
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Car and Driver are just butt hurt because the camaro owns their beloved german cars. Since I have read about 10+ reviews... I forgot which one it was but they used a 6'3 guy as an example and said he was very comfortable and visibility was much better than the gen5's. |
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10-16-2015, 08:40 PM | #145 | |
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10-16-2015, 08:53 PM | #146 | |
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Haha, very true. Don't get me wrong, I do want to hear the BAD about the car that I just ordered and no one has owned one (aka, no real review or knowledge of the car). But when you have everyone raving and loving it, 1 review being "meh", that is just damn wrong. |
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I have no problems hearing negatives about a car, but they better damn well be truthful and not nitpicking, like a know is .2 inches out of reach, and then say the car is a fail or loses a test, etc., which most of these magazines have done with various late model Vettes and Cadillacs.
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10-17-2015, 12:14 AM | #149 | |
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However, GM has stuck to this story that they were told not to change the compromised visibility. But If thy asked "Camaro owners" if visibility needed to be improved but that it would detract from the styling of the car then I could see people not wanting that. But I don't think improving sightlines and lowering the belt line of the car would have detracted from the overall style of the car. But as we have seen in this thread some people take the compromised sightlines as some kind of an attack on the car and maybe to a lesser extent themselves which shouldn't be viewed that way. So maybe they didn't get honest answers. |
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10-17-2015, 12:58 AM | #150 | |
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It is interesting that only one publication in all of the reviews I have read actually critisizes the visibility, when all of the others have a general opinion that visibility is a non-issue. It could be that the Car and Driver reporter said what he did without actually driving the car. When all of the others made their comments after actually driving the car. Last edited by Bongos2U; 10-17-2015 at 01:19 AM. |
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10-17-2015, 01:08 AM | #151 | |
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I noticed on the Camaro EU versions bigger mirrors. yes they are ugly but perhaps much better for safety ? http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299952 I noticed also in C7 Z51 when i put in reverse gear both utside mirrors changed outmatically their adjustment. They went downwards i think. But for me NOTHING helps....it was a nightmare for parking slots or our perhaps smaller park houses. Always sent my wife out After sitting in a 2015 GT i can say it has a very good visibility now, better than the 2011-14. One reviewer wrote Mustang inside is big like a ball house compared to camaro and inside camaro less light come in. I prefer the less sunshine come in because it will keep longer could in hot days ;-) The huge rearglass of the Mustang and no sunroof options was for me a nightmare on same days, sure it has AC but i always feel uncomfortable. Last edited by Noob; 10-17-2015 at 01:50 AM. |
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10-17-2015, 07:50 AM | #152 |
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I also wonder why the safety items could not have been their own option package and available for both 1lt and 1ss. Without lookingam thinking it is $395 on other chevy car lines.
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10-17-2015, 08:34 AM | #153 |
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I thought this too. Most companies have a "tech" or "electronics" package that has this stuff.
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10-17-2015, 09:11 AM | #154 |
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Someof the packaging of these options and items are a little strange on the Camaro, maybe they will be alterted and become a separate package somewhere dwn the road...maybe it is GM's way of forcing people into a higher trim, at least in the beginning.
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