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To me it's the only regular "Chevy"...(Can't count the Vette...lol) that has any affordable, sporty, sex-appeal... I think they'll come out with as many variations of it as possible for as long as possible and see what sticks in the future.... |
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I personally don't understand why anyone would want a 6 cyl camaro.
Actually ... I'll go one step further ... I don't understand why anyone would want a stock V8 camaro either! Kidding! Actually I remember seeing a beautiful 68 or 69 camaro on a website once that someone had done up ... and from memory it had a skyline engine in it. I know it's not a 4cyl ... but it challenged my thinking at the time. Then there is this amazing piece of engineering: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/chevy/1102dp_1969_cummins_powered_chevy_camaro/ Next thing their will be a hybrid or ... dare I say it ... an electric. Oh well ... it's all good ... more gas for me to burn! |
05-02-2013, 08:32 AM | #663 |
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I mean that they'll introduce a 6th gen camaro for a few yrs then discontinue it without redesign like they have done with the 2014 camaros to the 5th gen.
Theyre not going to capitalize on the camaro like they did in the past and run it into the ground. I see them discontinuing it all together before that happens again. It was a perfect time to bring them back, but how can you justify making a "muscle car" or pony car that will eventually lose its muscle again? You cant! Makes absolutely no sense to make a hybrid or electric or 4cyl camaro. That was never its intention. Its a high performance vehicle and high performance is on its way out again unless you will have the money to pay for it. I.e. Corvette, Porche, Audi..... The LT1 will be installed as the primary engine of the 6th gen camaro V8. 450HP will be the maximum amount of HP the Camaro is likely to see and itll drop from there.
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05-02-2013, 09:18 AM | #665 | |
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I just dont see the Camaro lasting very much longer. I could be wrong, but I dont want a "high performance" car thats 400HP unless you opt for the turbo or the S/C. Thats going back to how things used to be.
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As for the 500 HP, if GM actually develops a 10 speed transmission and reduces weight by 15%, then you may not need 500 HP to get the same performance out the same HP as the LT1 10-12 years from now. If you don't like FI, then yes you will have a problem because all the car manufacturers are going that route. You can always go the crate engine route or just keep what you have. However, most people don't seem to be shying away from the smaller displacement, FI alternatives that are being offered now. Why would they shy away 10-12 years from now when the technology is more ubiquitous and reliable?
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05-02-2013, 09:41 AM | #667 | |
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On a serious note, the "muscle" and roar will be lost. Which is what some of us enjoy.
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05-07-2013, 06:43 AM | #669 |
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[QUOTE=Wizard1183;6495569]Sorry, but if 450HP is the maximum HP on a 6th gen. You honestly think a 7th gen will start off with 500? Maybe.... just maybe, IF and a HUGE IF, they produce a 7th gen, it would NOT be NA. It would HAVE to be turbo/supercharged to get there. Id want the HP to be NA. Then if I choose, I can add boost. I just cant see the numbers getting higher when it will basically just be unrealistic for the average guy to go outand buy a high perfomance vehicle. Thats what its coming down to. The amount of SS Camaros on the road now? You wont see that in 10 yrs from now. High perfomance will be less and less. Inflation is making the prices of vehicles even more.You see the avg.salary keeping up with it? No it doesnt which is why youll see less and less of thoseon the road. A V8 camaro in 7 yrs regardless of whether or not it has a 6.2L or a 5.3L will cost MORE than it did today. Add a supercharger or turbo and the cost will go up. So then youll be paying $40k for a V8 camaro as the base price. Eventually itll be out of reach for the norm.
I just dont see the Camaro lasting very much longer. I could be wrong, but I dont want a "high performance" car thats 300HP unless you opt for the turbo or the S/C. Thats going back to how things used to be.[/QUOTE ? What do you mean? The Z/28 is 500 HP right now. The SS has been 426 HP since 2010. You don't want a high performance car thats 300 HP unless it has a turbo or SC??! Go buy a 2009 mustang GT. We'll drive the NA 400+HP Camaros!
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[/QUOTE]? What do you mean? The Z/28 is 500 HP right now. The SS has been 426 HP since 2010. You don't want a high performance car thats 300 HP unless it has a turbo or SC??! Go buy a 2009 mustang GT. We'll drive the NA 400+HP Camaros![/QUOTE]
What? Where'd you see that in my post? What Im saying is I dont see 400+HP in NA engines in 10 yrs. I think itll be HP made with boost to get the numbers where we're at today with NA engines. A smaller discplacement with boost to get the numbers means youre HP level decreases. Right? Thats what I was saying. I am willing to bet in 10 yrs there wont be a 400+HP NA engine for any average guy to go and buy. We'll see but I'll stand by my thoughts until proven otherwise with the way things seem to be headed.
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You said the part about not wanting a 300 HP NA engine in your previous post. It has been copied by me and Gretchen. You also said the Camaro was on its way out and that it would end with the 6th gen.
Do you want me to copy it and show you? The Camaro is not going anywhere ( currently outselling Mustang and Challenger). The Next SS will have over 400 HP NA. The SS after that will also have 400+ HP -- and your 10 year doomsaying is pointless and based on nothing.
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