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Larz29 02-07-2013 09:49 AM

Why would anyone want a 4 cylinder 2016 camaro
 
Why would anyone want a 4 cyl camaro?? Sounds a bit lame.

meissen 02-07-2013 03:50 PM

Why would anyone bawk at a 4cyl Camaro being added to the lineup if there's a demand? If it makes business sense and helps to keep the Camaro model in production, who cares? You can continue to buy your v8 and if someone wants to buy an entry level sporty Camaro at a cheaper price point, let 'em. Variation is the spice of life.

dcoates18481 02-07-2013 03:58 PM

400 hp 4 CYL!!!!
Let's do it!!!

INTIMIDAT3R 02-07-2013 04:08 PM

Because a 2 cylinder Camaro would just be silly. :D

FenwickHockey65 02-07-2013 04:36 PM

Because GM has one of the best turbo 4s in the industry.

family man 02-07-2013 04:39 PM

Bring back the Quad4!!!!

Drew10 02-07-2013 04:40 PM

Not for me, but it may not be a bad thing. As Fen said, GM has one of the best turbo 4's in the industry.

Didn't they use the 2.5 liter (iron duke) in the Berlenetta Camaros in the 80's?

CamaroC-17 02-07-2013 04:41 PM

Look at that those turbo neons and calibers putting out over 300hp from the factory....give the V8 a run for it's money

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FenwickHockey65 02-07-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew10 (Post 6133588)
Not for me, but it may not be a bad thing. As Fen said, GM has one of the best turbo 4's in the industry.

Didn't they use the 2.5 liter (iron duke) in the Berlenetta Camaros in the 80's?

Yep. It was pretty terrible but the LTG in the ATS and Malibu is down the corner and around the block from that engine.

Indy Bumble Bee 02-07-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by INTIMIDAT3R (Post 6133486)
Because a 2 cylinder Camaro would just be silly. :D

haha...made me laugh

Drew10 02-07-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 6133606)
Yep. It was pretty terrible but the LTG in the ATS and Malibu is down the corner and around the block from that engine.

O I know. I had an S-10 in high school that had a 2.5 in it. Over 2K miles on it and it still ran decent. Sounded like a diesel the whole time I owned it though.

ToolFan66 02-07-2013 04:59 PM

I didn't even look at a .750 Camaro I sure don't see me looking at a .500 Camaro.



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Ken_ 02-07-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by meissen (Post 6133419)
You can continue to buy your v8 and if someone wants to buy an entry level sporty Camaro at a cheaper price point, let 'em. Variation is the spice of life.

A cheaper price point might not be necessarily true. If GM decides to go 4-cylinder with turbo option, it could price itself above $30K. I do agree that variety is the spice of life (I also drive an AWD 4-cylinder turbo; EVO VIII).

On a road course, the advantage of a high HP 4-cylinder compact engine with a shift of the center-of-gravity towards the center, in addition to low curb-weight and a worked over tuned suspension would be hard to beat as long as the power:weight ratio is at least 1 or as close to 1 as possible.

90503 02-07-2013 06:54 PM

I'm sure that GM wouldn't put a four cylinder engine into the Camaro if they felt it wouldn't sell...It sounds a little hokey right now, but we have yet to see what the car looks like...Probably will be a good fit...

I find a little comfort that the new four cylinder won't be associated with the 5th gen, but then on the other hand a 6th gen with a powerful v8, that's light enough to handle a four cylinder, just might end up being totally awesome...

meissen 02-07-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by karguy (Post 6133842)
Let me be brutally honest.
I would NEVER buy an american car with a 4 or 6 cylinder engine !
A Camaro,Mustang,Challenger or Corvette only appeals to me because it has a V-8 engine that sounds great with an aftermarket exhaust !
Otherwise I would buy a german car that has a much nicer inerior and nicer suspension and the latest gimmicks or a Honda that is dead reliable !
A american car needs a rumbling V8 or it has no interest to me...
I don't even like the overhead cam coyote FORDS because they need to be revved and don't have that delicious low rpm torque...
4 cylinder or V6 Camaro.I'd rather drive a Prelude or Celica.O.K they don't make them anymore so I say Toyobaru BR-Z with a 4 cylinder boxer and rwd.No torque no sound but rwd and kind of fun to drive.
Or a VW GTI or TDI that is fun to drive and practical but has no V8 sound...;)

The problem that most of the close minded folks who think only a v8 belongs in the Camaro is that they don't realize that if the Camaro was v8 only there would not be enough business justification for the vehicle to exist. Without the v6, there would be no Camaro. Period.

Furthermore, my 1994 Camaro was a v6 when I bought it. I'm now one of the most passionate Camaro enthusiasts you'll meet. I run a Michigan-based Camaro and Firebird website with over 2300 members, I host a 300+ Camaro and Firebird specific car show every year, go to a ton of shows through the "car show season" in Michigan, registered on basically every Camaro forum on the internet, etc. Because of my '94 Camaro v6, I am likewise passionate about General Motors in general which made me work extra hard to get a job at General Motors world headquarters in Detroit. I eat, breathe, sleep GM and Camaro. I cannot imagine NOT owning at least one Camaro now for the rest of my life... And all that because of a v6...

So when I found out I could afford a 5th gen if I went with the base, 1LS model... Yeah, I didn't hesitate. :laugh:

mr02Z/28 02-07-2013 07:13 PM

For me, I would love the idea of a different option in the motor arena...If done right a 2.0L turbo 4 would be great in a lighter more agile 6th Gen Camaro.... I said it in another post, I would love a 320-325HP 2.0L Turbo in a 6th Gen that would weigh in about 3200-3300lbs(max)...

Number 3 02-07-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 6133606)
Yep. It was pretty terrible but the LTG in the ATS and Malibu is down the corner and around the block from that engine.

Fen the Iron Duke and the 2.5 or 2.0T are not on the same planet. Around the down the corner and around the block must be a long way where you come from.

christianmotox 02-07-2013 07:18 PM

Cause it would make for better threads "V8 vs V6 vs I4" :bellyroll:
Imagine the possibilities

mr02Z/28 02-07-2013 07:20 PM

Boosted 4cyl Turbos make some good output when boost is increased and would be cool to hear a 2015 2.0T Camaro spool it's turbo making massive HP in the 7,000+ range !!!!!!!

trewyn15 02-07-2013 07:26 PM

why would anyone make another thread on this? :laugh:

MBS 02-07-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by christianmotox (Post 6134170)
Cause it would make for better threads "V8 vs V6 vs I4" :bellyroll:
Imagine the possibilities

Yah sounds good now us V6 guys will have someone to pick on :happyanim:

trewyn15 02-07-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MBS (Post 6134213)
Yah sounds good now us V6 guys will have someone to pick on :happyanim:

The new I4 would probably be quicker than the v6's tho lol

fielderLS3 02-07-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by meissen (Post 6133419)
Why would anyone bawk at a 4cyl Camaro being added to the lineup if there's a demand? If it makes business sense and helps to keep the Camaro model in production, who cares? You can continue to buy your v8 and if someone wants to buy an entry level sporty Camaro at a cheaper price point, let 'em. Variation is the spice of life.

If that's the case, I have no problem with it....but what is more likely to happen is the 4-cyl will not come in cheaper, it will come in where the V6 currently is, and the V6 and V8 will both get pushed up.

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Originally Posted by camaroc5 (Post 6133593)
Look at that those turbo neons and calibers putting out over 300hp from the factory....give the V8 a run for it's money

Turbo Neon had 220 hp. I think the Turbo Caliber had about 260. Both could be modded to go over 300, but they generally became less than reliable at those levels.

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Originally Posted by mr02Z/28 (Post 6134176)
Boosted 4cyl Turbos make some good output when boost is increased and would be cool to hear a 2015 2.0T Camaro spool it's turbo making massive HP in the 7,000+ range !!!!!!!

It does sound good, but....

What you are describing is basically what the BRZ turbo will be once it comes out, which would make the Camaro a similarly powered car, but with a lot more mass and without the driving dynamics of the BRZ. So for those among us whose reason for buying the Camaro would be something other than it is named "Camaro," what would be the selling point?


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