[396ssrat]

Where is this car on the legal emissions scale?

[POINTBY]

Originally Posted by hawk02

I made essentially the same comment on Facebook. If the owner is really looking for straight-line speed, the standard ZL1 with A10 and this build would have been a much better choice. I can only imagine all the Camaro 1LE engineers shaking their heads in unison and saying wtf?

Exactly.

And the DSSV dampers are far from "comfortable."

[Joe's_cool_1le]

Didn't realize there was a cap on HP for a road course! Only the gods can decide what the correct HP can be? Seriously? I could relearn 700-800 to the wheels. Or by the very least have an absolute BLAST trying. Gotta love to push the envelope because I know there are a lot of enthusiast that sure love to do just that.

PS... If I missed something that guy only wants a straight line car my bad. If not cheers and enjoy finding that cars limits.

[scooter k]

BAD ASS car!!

[trakdayz]

Very cool build guys! Great work....but to me as a track rat, this serves no purpose at all.

[four0nefive]

Originally Posted by Joe's_cool_1le

Didn't realize there was a cap on HP for a road course! Only the gods can decide what the correct HP can be? Seriously? I could relearn 700-800 to the wheels. Or by the very least have an absolute BLAST trying. Gotta love to push the envelope because I know there are a lot of enthusiast that sure love to do just that.

PS... If I missed something that guy only wants a straight line car my bad. If not cheers and enjoy finding that cars limits.

Not so much of the fact of the fact that there's a horsepower cap, but when the car is already limited production and built specifically for road course work, what's the point of adding nearly 300 more horsepower?

800 horsepower to the wheels is over 900 crank horsepower. That's absolutely useless on the road course. 700 or 750 crank would probably be my limit, and even that's pushing the envelope.

VR does amazing work and they are extremely reputable, so I wont fault them because they are only doing what their customer asked them to do. For me personally though, I just couldn't see buying a car that wasn't built for straight line work and trying to turn it into one. I think most people including myself don't see the point especially when there's the standard ZL1 available that would be much better and much more streetable than the 1LE version. Same deal when people send their Viper TAs or ACRs to Nth Moto for a twin turbo set up. Why not just start with a regular version?

At least they're producing the ZL1 1LE for more than one year so at least some actual track enthusiasts still have a chance to get one, but to each their own.

[Joe's_cool_1le]

Originally Posted by four0nefive

Not so much of the fact of the fact that there's a horsepower cap, but when the car is already limited production and built specifically for road course work, what's the point of adding nearly 300 more horsepower?

800 horsepower to the wheels is over 900 crank horsepower. That's absolutely useless on the road course. 700 or 750 crank would probably be my limit, and even that's pushing the envelope.

VR does amazing work and they are extremely reputable, so I wont fault them because they are only doing what their customer asked them to do. For me personally though, I just couldn't see buying a car that wasn't built for straight line work and trying to turn it into one. I think most people including myself don't see the point especially when there's the standard ZL1 available that would be much better and much more streetable than the 1LE version. Same deal when people send their Viper TAs or ACRs to Nth Moto for a twin turbo set up. Why not just start with a regular version?

At least they're producing the ZL1 1LE for more than one year so at least some actual track enthusiasts still have a chance to get one, but to each their own.

I'll admit I have trouble understanding a car purist vs a car enthusiast. As long as one has supporting mods to keep the additional horsepower planted the only thing left is a driver mod. And who am I to say what a driver can handle vs the next? I think it truly comes down to exactly what you said, "but to each their own".

[Robbs1le]

So awesome! What a great combo

[STUNNAH]

A person has the right to choose what they want once that decision is made any argument is a moot point...

[plant]

Originally Posted by hawk02

I can only imagine all the Camaro 1LE engineers shaking their heads in unison and saying wtf?

Rare footage of camaro engineer after seeing people drag racing 1LEs:



More sales is a good thing for everyone. I want these cars to keep being made.

[Naturday13]

Originally Posted by STUNNAH

A person has the right to choose what they want once that decision is made any argument is a moot point...

Exactly.

[GoneBoy]

Originally Posted by four0nefive

Not so much of the fact of the fact that there's a horsepower cap, but when the car is already limited production and built specifically for road course work, what's the point of adding nearly 300 more horsepower?

800 horsepower to the wheels is over 900 crank horsepower. That's absolutely useless on the road course. 700 or 750 crank would probably be my limit, and even that's pushing the envelope.

VR does amazing work and they are extremely reputable, so I wont fault them because they are only doing what their customer asked them to do. For me personally though, I just couldn't see buying a car that wasn't built for straight line work and trying to turn it into one. I think most people including myself don't see the point especially when there's the standard ZL1 available that would be much better and much more streetable than the 1LE version. Same deal when people send their Viper TAs or ACRs to Nth Moto for a twin turbo set up. Why not just start with a regular version?

At least they're producing the ZL1 1LE for more than one year so at least some actual track enthusiasts still have a chance to get one, but to each their own.

You make some decent points, but in general I don't understand why some of y'all are pissed or questioning what this man did to his car. If we're going there, u can also ask what's the point of even buying a zl1 1le at all if it's not gonna be used for hard core tracking, where you're trying to shave 3-5 seconds off a technical 2.5 mile road course. What percentage of buyers do you think made the decision to go 1le vs standard based on that criteria? Better yet, how many of those buyers are even technically capable of doing this? I'd venture to say a tiny tiny tiny fraction of them. So should we also attack the majority of those guys for snapping up allocations from track goers who are more deserved?

honestly for about 98% of us, the 1le is overkill given the sacrifices that are made for daily comfort. This man wanted an awesome power upgrade on currently the top dog camaro. He's no different than the majority of zl1 1le buyers.... he just has 300hp more than them and a gm powertrain warranty that he'll never get to use.

[POINTBY]

I'd like to know what was done to the cooling system to support the additional power.

GM spent a lot of time to ensure the car would not overheat on a road course, but this car is likely now going to have that problem.

[HyperBlueX2]

Originally Posted by hawk02

I made essentially the same comment on Facebook. If the owner is really looking for straight-line speed, the standard ZL1 with A10 and this build would have been a much better choice. I can only imagine all the Camaro 1LE engineers shaking their heads in unison and saying wtf?