08-31-2016, 12:09 AM | #1 |
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Adam Polishes H2O Guard and Gloss?
Anyone has experience with this product? I read amazing reviews everywhere on the internet. Does it do a job similar to BF Sealant?
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08-31-2016, 08:39 AM | #2 |
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I've purchased both solutions and plan to run with Adam's in next couple of weeks. Personally, I like to breadth of products offered by the company, the intensive research with 110% guaranty and the forums to support you. So net-net it will be the easiest, fastest, and most effective way to seal your paint.
Of course my current detailing plan will take some time Exterior:
Couple days later:
Interior:
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Tell me when you do these, I'd like to see the results. Are you going to put this over your matte stripe or just tape that off separately?
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08-31-2016, 03:07 PM | #4 |
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Ok, I'm going to tape off the matt stripes and use VRT. Then it's a question on if I apply H2O Guard and Gloss and the Wax on top of the stripes. Still trying to figure this part out.
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HGG can be applied to the car wet or dry though, but does require water to activate either way. Blackfire is applied to a clean dry surface with no buffing required (I'm assuming you were referring to BF Crystal Seal). Either can be used to top a longer term sealant that is already on the car. If applied over wax, both have limited durability. HGG requires plush microfiber towels for application. Rag Company Everest 1100 towels work perfect. The BF has more durability @ around 3-4 months. The HGG lasts 2-3 months, on a properly prepped surface. The HGG when applied wet right after washing also is very safe for your paint, as no dirt should be present to scratch the surface during application. Carpro Hydrofoam is my favorite quick sealer, you just wash, rinse, pool rinse, and dry. 3 months of protection, better protection against etching from bugs and bird bombs, and much better water sheeting during weekly washes.
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Why would it limit the durability if wax was applied. My plan was to wash, wax, then apply HGG. Or should I do it the other way around: wash, HGG and then wax?
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08-31-2016, 05:48 PM | #7 |
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Both sealants Need to go on bare paint, that's the "seal' part...wax if you want on top of that but I think it a worthless step as it washes off, maybe for a show , but nothing more...
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H20 Guard & Gloss delivers lasting protection and unmatched gloss in a unique water-activated formula that is fast and easy to apply. The incredibly effective blend of acrylic resins and water activated nano-polymers leaves your paint slick and protected without the extra effort and hassle of traditionally applied sealants or waxes. The optical grade polymers won't stain exterior trim, and even leave rubber and plastic looking darker and protected from the elements. Thanks for giving us a try I don't think you will be sorry! |
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08-31-2016, 07:12 PM | #9 |
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Undercarriage spray? On the fabric liners?
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Sealants are man made synthetic protection, Adams HGG for example is a water activated synthetic resin. Waxes are made from natural ingredients such as carnauba and bees wax. Synthetics are much more durable and heat resistant. So if you apply wax, which lasts a month or two, I'm talking about real wax, not wax blended with sealant, or cleaner wax. If you apply wax first, the sealant cannot bond directly to the paint, so it bonds to the wax, since the durability of wax is lower, when the wax is gone, so is the sealant which was bonded to it. Apply most durable protection first. I'm with Glen about using wax. But my car is a daily driver. Some people find it therapeutic to wax their vehicles and I totally get that. Especially people with garage queens or show cars. Wax does apply easily over HGG though. I've used Pinnacle Souveran and Victoria Concours with no issues. Avoid use of cleaner waxes on top of these sealants, as they contain light abrasives and/or solvents that will remove sealants. So wash the car first, then do a baggie test. Have you ever clayed or used a clay alternative on your paint? If not, it probably needs it. This removes stuck on contaminates that washing alone cannot. Gives your HGG a better surface to bond to, as it's now sticking to the paint, not the contaminates on the car. You can apply wax after HGG if you like. I actually used HGG, Blackfire CS, and currently Hydrofoam as "toppers" to a more durable base sealant, like Sonus Ion, Adams Liquid Paint Sealant, or Carpro Reload. Many others to choose from. Topping your base sealant prolongs it's longevity. I also used them on customers cars as the only sealant.
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The only thing is my car paint is not metallic (its yellow) and so am not sure I will be able to spot the difference at all
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09-01-2016, 01:24 PM | #13 |
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Hmmm... you've got me now thinking about the Carpro Hydro2foam. I wonder what this will do to vinyl and matt stripes?
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The only thing I do different from the HGG video is use 2 towels in the wet bucket (Rag Company Everest 1100's), alternating them out every panel. This prevents un-even spreading and gives plenty of water to activate any product on the car that hasn't already been activated by the water on the surface. If you have any streaks, that's un-activated product. Simply activate by slowly wiping with one of the wet towels. If enough water is present on the car, you won't have any streaks, as it will activate and slide down the surface as shown in the video. If ultimate shine is what your after, that can only be accomplished by machine polishing.
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