First time on Launch control, tranny is dead

[POWERFREAK]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

There's nothing wrong with the design of the 6060. I have owned/driven two different GT500's, one making over 750rwhp that saw plenty of drag racing action and 3500+rpm launches on M/T drag radials, and the transmission never had any problems, even after 32K miles. I am also involved on several of the GT500/Ford forums, and you do not hear about any tranny issues with the cars. There were some clutch issues early on, but not transmission. I assume there are some significant differences in the units they are putting in the new Camaro vesus what goes into the GT500's, but I have no idea what they might be.

That's good to hear (I have an M6). The main complaints I hear are the synchro's can't handle power-shifting very well.

The majority of the Camaro trans problems are because of the tailshafts...if that "bad batch" never happened, there would be less chicken-little's running around here.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

There's nothing wrong with the design of the 6060. I have owned/driven two different GT500's, one making over 750rwhp that saw plenty of drag racing action and 3500+rpm launches on M/T drag radials, and the transmission never had any problems, even after 32K miles. I am also involved on several of the GT500/Ford forums, and you do not hear about any tranny issues with the cars. There were some clutch issues early on, but not transmission. I assume there are some significant differences in the units they are putting in the new Camaro vesus what goes into the GT500's, but I have no idea what they might be.

QFT.

The '07 and '08 GT500 flywheel and clutch was designed for racing, and could overheat and expand in stop and go driving. This issue was resolved in the late '09 and '10 model. Have not heard of any GT500 Transmission issues, and last time I checked GT500's were not lacking power.....

[Van]

Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

There's plenty of Camaro's that have no problems too...I'm sure EVERY GT500 is just perfect. If you want a 'stang, by all means (it's your $$). But if you like the Camaro, don't let a few problems stop you from buying one. There's no car ever made that won't have a few problems here and there (especially in the first year)...that's why we have warranties. And for the price difference, you could certainly build a Camaro just as fast as a GT500 (and also build a bullet-proof trans).

I love my Camaro...it shifts fine.

Don't be a jackass. I didn't say that ALL the GT500's were perfect nor did I say that ALL the Camaros were crap.

For that matter I don't mind having small problems here and there...I DO mind a major problem like a rear end that isn't safe, or a tranny that isn't safe. The fact of the matter is you won't KNOW until it breaks. I'm contending with the idea of whether or not I want to worry about the TR6060 disintegrating when I use launch mode, or do a hard launch, or shift hard between gears.

The other factor I took into consideration...yes...I could build a Camaro just as fast or faster for the ten grand price difference, but it would be void of warranty unlike the Ford. The Ford can also be increased in HP and TQ with the consent of the manufacturer.

Look...all I'm saying is that its a real problem to be concerned with. Little things are to be expected, I don't expect gross mistakes like trannies with paper-strength internals, or a possible poorly designed mating of drivetrain systems or poorly designed software that is supposed to minimize damage to the drivetrain doing the very thing it was trying to prevent.

Tell you what though...why don't you go and use launch control for about ten passes. Tell me what happens.

[Bowtie Guy Z28]

Originally Posted by Sleestack

....and last time I checked GT500's were not lacking power.....

Ha ha ha...You are hilarious!!! Ohh man I almost wet myself on that predictable comment.

[POWERFREAK]

Originally Posted by Van

Don't be a jackass. I didn't say that ALL the GT500's were perfect nor did I say that ALL the Camaros were crap.

For that matter I don't mind having small problems here and there...I DO mind a major problem like a rear end that isn't safe, or a tranny that isn't safe. The fact of the matter is you won't KNOW until it breaks. I'm contending with the idea of whether or not I want to worry about the TR6060 disintegrating when I use launch mode, or do a hard launch, or shift hard between gears.

The other factor I took into consideration...yes...I could build a Camaro just as fast or faster for the ten grand price difference, but it would be void of warranty unlike the Ford. The Ford can also be increased in HP and TQ with the consent of the manufacturer.

Look...all I'm saying is that its a real problem to be concerned with. Little things are to be expected, I don't expect gross mistakes like trannies with paper-strength internals, or a possible poorly designed mating of drivetrain systems or poorly designed software that is supposed to minimize damage to the drivetrain doing the very thing it was trying to prevent.

Tell you what though...why don't you go and use launch control for about ten passes. Tell me what happens.

I wasn't being a jackass...you're the one whining about a few problems and saying you considering buying a GT500...but WTF do I care, go spend $50k on a mustang (sounds like you've already made up your mind). A few people have problems and now the car is unsafe...take off your tinfoil hat. AGAIN...The only big problem is a bad batch of tailshafts...no newer vin #'s seem to have the problem.

[Van]

Oh I'm still getting the Camaro, don't get me wrong. However you're making it sound like the concerns are nonexistent. You don't think that an output shaft breaking rendering the car IMMOVEABLE isn't a safety issue? What if you're trying to get out of the way of another vehicle and BANG the car doesn't work? Wait...nevermind...that won't ever happen.

Like I said...go try out the launch control 10 times in a row, film it, and post it up to prove to anyone with these concerns that their trepidations are unfounded. Thank you.

[POWERFREAK]

Originally Posted by Van

Oh I'm still getting the Camaro, don't get me wrong. However you're making it sound like the concerns are nonexistent. You don't think that an output shaft breaking rendering the car IMMOVEABLE isn't a safety issue? What if you're trying to get out of the way of another vehicle and BANG the car doesn't work? Wait...nevermind...that won't ever happen.

Like I said...go try out the launch control 10 times in a row, film it, and post it up to prove to anyone with these concerns that their trepidations are unfounded. Thank you.

I don't think I'd want launch any stock 400hp car hard 10 times in a row, sorry. I drive my cars hard, but I tend not to beat the living piss out of them. There's enough camaro's on youtube launching at the track to make me think that it's NOT a problem on all of them. Are there any vin#'s higher than 26,000 (about the time it was reported) w/ a broken tailshaft?

I am glad you still plan on buying a camaro I would have no problem launching my car...although if I was planning on doing a lot of racing, I would have bought an A6 (and NOT because of these tailshaft issues).

[carfansince73]

I'm not going to do it 10 times, maybe 3 or 4. I am not in a rush to replace those $400/piece rear tires.

[Van]

Well the whole thing about competition mode is that its supposed to launch "properly" with little wheelspin.

So don't worry about the tires! They're only $400 bucks each!

[jayson71]

Mine works great, I encourage all of you to stick with it this feature is awesome!