View Poll Results: What do you think of the style of the 2015 Mustang? | |||
Really like it. | 62 | 21.99% | |
Undecided, but leaning positive. | 80 | 28.37% | |
Undecided, but leaning negative. | 69 | 24.47% | |
Don't like it at all. | 71 | 25.18% | |
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12-08-2013, 04:58 PM | #645 | |
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12-08-2013, 05:12 PM | #646 |
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For sure, Terry Fair of Vorshlag would weigh in on the side of larger rear brakes for the Mustang (or any front engine car with an anywhere near similar difference in rotor size).
http://www.vorshlag.com/index.php?cPath=141_142_280 http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...roducts_id=606 He and his wife have been running a street-legal and air conditioned 2011 GT variously in TT3 this past year (and SCCA E-Street Prepared during 2012), with considerable success. http://www.vorshlag.com/blog/ I have to agree at least generally with the notion of rear rotors of more equal size relative to the fronts, at least as long as you can stay out of brake hop (something that some years of the stick-axle Camaros/Firebirds were very sensitive to). Basically, it's foolish to have to throw away any rear braking as a Band-Aid for some other brake-related shortcoming. And just because I think Camaro5 members will find it interesting, Vorshlag is also known for developing kits for swapping LS-series engines into BMWs . . . Norm |
12-08-2013, 05:41 PM | #647 |
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12-08-2013, 05:43 PM | #648 |
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When it comes to brakes the biggest that fit in the wheels is best for a road course. The problem you have is weight. That's when Ceramics come into the conversation. The conversation also exceeds my wallets capabilities at that point too.
I read during the development of the Z/28 that the drivers had commented that on the Nurburgring the SS was comfortable hitting the brakes at the 125 foot mark. The ZL1 was around the 100 foot mark. The Z/28 was braking early at the 50-75 foot mark. My wallet apparently can only afford the 100 foot mark. When I was in HS I had a Monte Carlo that arguably had a better HP to weight ratio than my 1LE. It also had crap for suspension and brakes it had a ton of tire under it though. Which car is faster and better in just about every aspect? The 1LE. I have a bit of a brake, suspension, wheel and tire fetish. To me you need to get all of this squared away before you throw a bunch of power in a car. I learned that it HS. While doing donuts after hitting gears and almost having to come to a complete stop to turn. It did run mid 12's in the 1/4. Not bad for 1989... Apparently the Ford engineers skipped school that day... lol Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
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12-08-2013, 05:45 PM | #649 | |
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edit: and I think from the release of the c7 obviously GM knows how to play this game just as well as Ford does |
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12-08-2013, 05:46 PM | #650 | |
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12-08-2013, 06:00 PM | #652 | |
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You don't see Ford Ppl on the mustang forums saying they'll trade their mustang for a camaro. |
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12-08-2013, 06:05 PM | #653 | |
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12-08-2013, 06:05 PM | #654 |
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I did. Although, I'm neither "Ford Ppl" as you put it or "Chevy Ppl". What the car is and does has more importance to me than what name is on it. I figure I have done far more for car manufacturers over the years by purchasing their cars than they have or will have ever done for me. So I can't see why I need to treat them like they were part of my family.
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12-08-2013, 06:17 PM | #655 | |
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The speculation from the Ford camp was "2-300 lb savings" for Mustang. That 200 savings would benefit greatly from an all-aluminum Turbo-4 with a Performance Package including forged aluminum wheels to get to a savings of "200 lb", if that is possible. The fact they were secretive about the actual Curb weight leads all present media to suspect the weight-savings are NOT "across the board". True, until Ford pulls the covers off that tidbit, no one FOR SURE knows, but the composition of the platform and body structure doesn't SHOW a V8 Mustang has attained a 200 lb. diet. Meanwhile, the worst-kept secret @ GM is the Gen-6 Camaro will be smaller, overall, and built from a derivative of the ATS platform, internally known as Alpha. We know what those ATSs weigh, in Turbo-4/V6 variants. And those weights are at or below current '14 Mustang. Keep in mind the C7 is now aluminum-framed, and seats 2. It curbs @ 3300 lb. If you take a 3500 lb. V6 ATS and add LT1/HD trannies/upgraded diff, you'll arrive at a weight similar to the current GT, which is close to 10% less than current SS, as suggested. Speculation? No, deductive reasoning based on valid facts. |
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12-08-2013, 06:20 PM | #656 | |
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Read this bro... They know more than us. http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/f...irst-look.html I will give you that I misused unsprung weight... when I typed that I was pretty deep into my Jack and Coke watching football.
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12-08-2013, 06:21 PM | #657 |
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and you know this how?
people that claim that GM is toast if ford comes out with a 500 hp mustang are retarded.
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12-08-2013, 06:25 PM | #658 |
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Also you can read this too... Basically it has a nicer interior and bigger trunk than the Camaro...
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/f...et-camaro.html
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