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Old 02-01-2013, 05:19 PM   #35
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...love the look of the new Stingray, seems to me some fusion of Camaro styling in it, I hope the new Camaro is also transformed in a similar direction, perhaps with some C7 styling cues??? Now, that would be something....Mr. Welburn should have the Vette design team draw up a Gen 6 Camaro model...just for their prospective on what it should look like since they did such a fine job on the C7.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:37 AM   #36
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...love the look of the new Stingray, seems to me some fusion of Camaro styling in it, I hope the new Camaro is also transformed in a similar direction, perhaps with some C7 styling cues??? Now, that would be something....Mr. Welburn should have the Vette design team draw up a Gen 6 Camaro model...just for their prospective on what it should look like since they did such a fine job on the C7.
That sounds like a great idea to me.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:30 AM   #37
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The fact of the matter is, this car came to market a tad late. The 5th gen Mustang already had five years under its belt as opposed to the 3 years it had in the 60's. Already the new Mustang is coming out and it's apparently taking a different direction in styling.

If the Camaro is to compete with the Mustang, it has to have its own unique styling but cater to the same styling trends that the Mustang and all other cars in its class are adapting to.

It's a shame, because I loved the retro movement but it's on its way out.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:06 AM   #38
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I'm in no rush - every time I start thinking like that, it makes me want to stop modding my car. Enjoy what you have!!!!!!!
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:26 AM   #39
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Jeff Goldblum says "Welllll....." I don't care about depreciation because I'm not selling mine. And it's fun to speculate. But I hope the 5th gen production sticks around for a few more years, sort of. I got mine, but I think the refresh was not exactly in the right direction. So if the 6th gen continues to go south let's go ahead and get it out so we can move on to a 7th, on the other hand, two or three renderings of the 6th gen look pretty cool, and if it looks cool and is lighter, therefore performs better, then I'm ready for it in about 4 years, yeah, 4 years. My car will have 50k miles on it and be ready to retire to the garage and Friday nights and the new daily driver will need to be here.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:12 AM   #40
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On the one hand I totally agree with the OP, on the other, let the price fall. I have one, I want at least two more 5th gens, so let the price fall
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:44 AM   #41
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I see no hurry either.
All the improvements can pretty much be done to the current visual styling or at least by keeping very close to it.

On the other hand, I look forward to my 5th Gen becoming unique ASAP :-)
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Old 05-12-2013, 05:34 AM   #42
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I am in no rush at all. I am happy with my Camaro and I want to keep on modding mine for a few more years. I am curious to see what the 6th gen looks like, but I am in no hurry
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #43
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Because a new Mustang is right around the corner.
^ This, Ford should be moving on to the 6th gen Mustang in 2015 if I am not mistaken, because the 5th gen Mustang debut'd in 2004 began production in 2005.

I think waiting till 2016 is going to be bad enough I was hoping they would come out with the 6th Gen Camaro in 2015. But I can understand waiting until 2016 just because the car will only be 6 years old at that point.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:24 PM   #44
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6th gen will probably arrive sometime in 2015 for the 2016 model year.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:31 PM   #45
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6th gen will probably arrive sometime in 2015 for the 2016 model year.
Agreed. Its already been stated that Camaro production moves to Lansing in 2015 right....and I don't see any point to simply moving production of the current car there only to retool it a year or two later for the next gen.

6th gen Camaro for 2016 model year.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:48 AM   #46
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I believe Ford will be bringing a new Mustang next year as that will be the 50th annv.for the car.I can't see Ford waiting much longer than that,how many diehard Mustang fans would be pissed if they skipped the 50th year mark,so Chevy will answer the Mustang in 2015 in Detroit and may even introduce the car later in the year as a 2017 model for a 50th annv model for Camaro.Hey stranger things have happened,I bought a 2002 TB in early 01.So it doesn't matter if you're in a hurry or not Chevrolet will bring it when they're ready.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:29 AM   #47
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Decrease in value?
Anyone notice that 4th gens were a dime a dozen 5 years ago, and now they are insanely priced?
I passed on a few $4-5000 SS's before the 5th gen was out. Now they are $10K cars.
I think ours will hold their own.
The 6th gen may be a turd....never know.
1st Gen = Bad ASS
2nd Gen = Meh
3rd Gen = Excellent
4th Gen = Decent
5th Gen = Awesome
6th Gen = ? (if it has 2nd Gen style, I'll pass)
Bring back the square look! IROC style!
I liked he 1st & 2nd gen and absolutely hated the 3rd gen. 4th gen is OK and ofc I love the 5th gen.

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Probably as butt ugly as the new Corvette - and it's industry leading "part time" four cyl. engine......
Good thing looks are subjective because I think the new Corvette is one of the best looking Vette's.

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Agreed. Its already been stated that Camaro production moves to Lansing in 2015 right....and I don't see any point to simply moving production of the current car there only to retool it a year or two later for the next gen.

5th gen Camaro for 2016 model year.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:11 AM   #48
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Mechanically the 6th gen is going to be a better car, but after seeing the "refresh" I'm more than a little worried about the looks. The back of the 2014 refresh looks boring and cheap; it doesn't look exotic, powerful, muscular or exciting in any way, shape or form. The front's "okay" but a bit out-of-balance in the design elements. The hood bulge is too wide, the hood vent looks like an after-market JC Whitney-esque add-on. I understand and agree with the value of the hood vent, just not thrilled with the design/looks.

While a muscle car is clearly about performance, it's also a serious style statement. The key word is "muscle". The designer responsible for the 5th gen understood and delivered a gorgeous, powerful, muscular design that I love to look at every time I walk into my garage. The 2014 refresh looks like 4 different committees worked on it; one for the lower front, one for the upper front, one for the hood, and one for the rear of the car. Those 4 areas do not match in look, style or feel. That's a problem and a style/design weakness.

A car design should be masterminded by one designer who "gets it" and has a clear vision of how it should look and feel. The 5th gen concept car and resulting production car clearly demonstrates what that ideal produces. Design by committee is always the lesser product.

GM Management if you read this PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have the vision and courage to give the 6th gen design to a single designer who understands what "muscle" looks like and designs the car accordingly. You did it with the 5th gen, you can do it again. Look at how the "risk" you took paid off with the 5th gen; in reality, it wasn't a risk at all which is the lesson you should be taking away from the experience with 5th gen sales.

A bold, muscular design should also have bold colors; don't chicken-out and put tame, "toned-down" colors on an exciting car. Pick a stop-you-dead-in-your-tracks blue; a rocking kick-ass orange; a deep ooh-aah exciting red; a solid 'this is a race car' yellow; a shimmering buttery silver; a supernatural foam white; and of course, a deep-space obsidian black. These should be people-stopping-and-taking-pictures kind of colors.

Pull all the stops out; financially this is a bread and butter car for you. Don't get gimmicky and don't chicken out. Do NOT "compete" with anybody; don't let other companies dictate what you do. Have a clear vision of what YOU would like to own and drive, then make it happen.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:08 PM   #49
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..with the Gen 5 Camaro, Mr. Welburn secretly used two design teams, the one not chosen designed the Volt. I trust some similar method of design will be used for the Gen 6 Camaro. I thought that was very clever in what he did.
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The re-design is growing on me... the tailights seem to be going the direction of the 67'-69', whereas the first 5th gen 10-13 has had tails reminscent of the 71'.

The only thing I'm excited for is less weight which will hopefully up MPG's... I really hope they can do this without making the car substantially smaller in all regards. The new Mustang is going to be smaller and lighter as well, the 6th gen will hit a year later...
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Mechanically the 6th gen is going to be a better car, but after seeing the "refresh" I'm more than a little worried about the looks. The back of the 2014 refresh looks boring and cheap; it doesn't look exotic, powerful, muscular or exciting in any way, shape or form. The front's "okay" but a bit out-of-balance in the design elements. The hood bulge is too wide, the hood vent looks like an after-market JC Whitney-esque add-on. I understand and agree with the value of the hood vent, just not thrilled with the design/looks.

While a muscle car is clearly about performance, it's also a serious style statement. The key word is "muscle". The designer responsible for the 5th gen understood and delivered a gorgeous, powerful, muscular design that I love to look at every time I walk into my garage. The 2014 refresh looks like 4 different committees worked on it; one for the lower front, one for the upper front, one for the hood, and one for the rear of the car. Those 4 areas do not match in look, style or feel. That's a problem and a style/design weakness.

A car design should be masterminded by one designer who "gets it" and has a clear vision of how it should look and feel. The 5th gen concept car and resulting production car clearly demonstrates what that ideal produces. Design by committee is always the lesser product.

GM Management if you read this PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have the vision and courage to give the 6th gen design to a single designer who understands what "muscle" looks like and designs the car accordingly. You did it with the 5th gen, you can do it again. Look at how the "risk" you took paid off with the 5th gen; in reality, it wasn't a risk at all which is the lesson you should be taking away from the experience with 5th gen sales.

A bold, muscular design should also have bold colors; don't chicken-out and put tame, "toned-down" colors on an exciting car. Pick a stop-you-dead-in-your-tracks blue; a rocking kick-ass orange; a deep ooh-aah exciting red; a solid 'this is a race car' yellow; a shimmering buttery silver; a supernatural foam white; and of course, a deep-space obsidian black. These should be people-stopping-and-taking-pictures kind of colors.

Pull all the stops out; financially this is a bread and butter car for you. Don't get gimmicky and don't chicken out. Do NOT "compete" with anybody; don't let other companies dictate what you do. Have a clear vision of what YOU would like to own and drive, then make it happen.


AMEN BROTHER!! Took the words right out of my mouth.

You listening GM? If I had one thing to add...just for grins....I'd say skip the idea that the Camaro has to incorporate the current "brand look" or Chevy design trend that say your other bread and butter cars like Cruise, Malibu, or Impala may all share in some way or another.

Keep the Camaro unique! Thats what we like about it! Keep it bold.
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