[activeSS]

How do we justify the fact that a 2023 ZL-1 is about the same cost as a new Vette with a 2LT package?

[WhiteMale]

I actually went in to a dealer and talked C8 primarily because of the ZL1/8 costs are so close, though I would have had the Z51 package on it. a Few thousand more but the line was even longer to that car than the ZL1.

[Jaxcam02]

We talking about a base c8 stingray? If so the ZL1 has significantly more power and torque.

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by activeSS

How do we justify the fact that a 2023 ZL-1 is about the same cost as a new Vette with a 2LT package?

I just did a build and price on both cars. The Corvette Stingray coupe with 2LT trim is about $4855 more than an A10 ZL1 coupe.

But you have to remember the Corvette does not include mag ride shocks, performance exhaust, or electronic slip differential.

If you want the mag ride shocks and performance exhaust that will run you another $3090 so now you're up to $7945 more. If you want the ELSD, that will require the Z51 package which will cost you an additional $6345 and does not include the mag ride shocks. That will add $1895. Now the cost of the Stingray is $13,095 more than the ZL1.

I maintain, the Camaro ZL1 is the absolute bargain of the Chevy performance line hands down.

I spent damn near $11,000 in options on my C8 just to keep parity with my ZL1 that's the kind of bargain the ZL1 is.

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by Jaxcam02

We talking about a base c8 stingray? If so the ZL1 has significantly more power and torque.

Horse power and torque doesn't always equate to being faster. The C8 has a faster 0-60 time and quarter mile. Maybe more fun to drive but not necessarily faster.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by activeSS

How do we justify the fact that a 2023 ZL-1 is about the same cost as a new Vette with a 2LT package?

The ZL1 slightly outperforms the base model Corvette Stingray. They are fairly close in price if there's no ADM, that being said, the C8 is selling so fast they can't keep up, the Camaro is not, so its priced accordingly. The ZL1 is an amazing value due to required pricing in order to sell them. The ZL1 wouldn't sell as well if it were another $10-15K more.

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

The ZL1 slightly outperforms the base model Corvette Stingray. They are fairly close in price if there's no ADM, that being said, the C8 is selling so fast they can't keep up, the Camaro is not, so its priced accordingly. The ZL1 is an amazing value due to required pricing in order to sell them. The ZL1 wouldn't sell as well if it were another $10-15K more.

Please explain how the ZL1 slightly outperforms the Stingray. I own both cars and I wouldn’t say the ZL1 outperforms the Stingray. I would give the edge to the Stingray. It’s close but the Stingray overall provides better performance.

[NG329]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Please explain how the ZL1 slightly outperforms the Stingray. I own both cars and I wouldn’t say the ZL1 outperforms the Stingray. I would give the edge to the Stingray. It’s close but the Stingray overall provides better performance.

The ZL1 literally beats it in every single performance category except for 0-60.

[cariboocreek]

Originally Posted by NG329

The ZL1 literally beats it in every single performance category except for 0-60.

And even that is assuming the C8 tranny will survive the 0-60. Lol.

[activeSS]

Originally Posted by hawk02

I just did a build and price on both cars. The Corvette Stingray coupe with 2LT trim is about $4855 more than an A10 ZL1 coupe.

I guess my bad about one thing. The price changes. I paid $72k for a 2022 2 LT with a few options and the ZL-1 I order is $70, 395.

I should look at 23 to 23 numbers since the Vette went up even more than the Camaro.

[Vigilante375]

Main reason....2 seater vs 4 seater. For us that have families, it's easy for us to put the kid or kids in the back seat and still have a high performance car to play with.

Also.... the ZL1 has the manual option while the Vette never will sadly.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Please explain how the ZL1 slightly outperforms the Stingray. I own both cars and I wouldn’t say the ZL1 outperforms the Stingray. I would give the edge to the Stingray. It’s close but the Stingray overall provides better performance.

Fun fact, I owned both cars too if you recall. The ZL1 outperform the C8 Stingray in every possible way other than 0-60. It's just as quick in the 1/4 with a better trap speed than the C8 which means after the 1/4 it's all over for the C8, and it handles and brakes better too and has a higher top speed. Basically, other than 0-60, it outperforms it everywhere, not opinion, just fact.

This was our C8 Z51 just in case you had any doubts or forgot.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by cariboocreek

And even that is assuming the C8 tranny will survive the 0-60. Lol.

It will.

[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Horse power and torque doesn't always equate to being faster. The C8 has a faster 0-60 time and quarter mile. Maybe more fun to drive but not necessarily faster.

Agree on C8 winning 0-60 time, but do not agree that it wins the quarter mile. Checking the respective fast lists for cars claimed to be bone stock finds the ZL1 with a 10.94 and the C8 with a 10.96, note that trap speeds are higher for the ZL1. Seems to me the mid engine gives the C8 the advantage at the hit, then the superior hp of the ZL1 chases it down and catches it by the stripe. The actual faster, namely top speed, I do think that an A10 ZL1 would leave a C8 behind in that test.