01-31-2020, 11:36 AM | #183 | |
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The Mustang, while behind the Camaro, still has more performance potential than I could ever take advantage of, so that would never impact my decision to buy one. The price does though, especially when I look at what a ZL1 costs.
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01-31-2020, 12:30 PM | #184 | |
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01-31-2020, 12:39 PM | #185 |
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Has Throttle House ever posted the thread depth for the allegedly worn tires?
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01-31-2020, 12:49 PM | #186 | |
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Unfortunately they did not. Which is again why I doubt that it was on worn tires. Randy says the GT500 would have won if not for the tires. Yet they didn't put up how badly the tires were worn or even how much they think the GT500 would have won by. |
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01-31-2020, 02:04 PM | #187 |
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It will be interesting to see. Me as a corvette fan and wanting it as one of my dream cars, was so glad to see it be priced reasonably still. I think if they ever tried to position Camaro as a replacement for what the Corvette used to be, they would fail.
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01-31-2020, 02:09 PM | #188 |
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No they haven't, but unless there were different tires for the photoshoot portions of the video then they don't look very worn at all. Someone did point out that the ZLE had some PS4S on the front for the photoshoot portions so who knows.
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01-31-2020, 03:37 PM | #189 |
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I'll just point out that the Sport Cup 2 tires are notorious for one hero lap and then dropping off pretty quickly. Also, they are shaved tires. By that I mean, they have much less tread depth, to begin with, than a normal tire. That holds true for the GY SC3 and more so for SC3R. Unless there are real high definition, close-ups, it is hard to tell how much the tires may have been worn. One or two big heat cycles may be enough for the Cup 2 tires to have been heat cycled out.
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01-31-2020, 04:26 PM | #190 |
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Yes, sport cup 2s are famous for 1 hero lap (some people are ignorant to this fact), but if they heat cycle out after 1 or 2 times they are complete garbage.
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01-31-2020, 04:39 PM | #191 |
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Here is the thing. RP said the tires were already worn pretty badly. So they didn't bring it there, get a wicked run around the track, then run it on the quarter mile, and then say it had badly worn tires. It had badly worn tires from the very start. Does anyone truly believe that you could drive a car this heavy and with this much HP around a track safely if the tires were THAT badly worn? That is not only irresponsible but extremely dangerous. That is why I am having trouble believing those statements. AM I to believe that RP took that car out on the track in such an unsafe condition? And looking at it launch from a stop, if those tires were worn, there is no way it would grip well enough to beat a Hellcat. On top of not telling us exactly how worn down they were, there is just too much to question.
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But Randy is a professional driver and if he didnt think the tires were good enough to track then I doubt he would track it. Also I'm pretty sure he gets new tires every time he drives for MTs track testing so having "worn" tires would have been noticeable to him. |
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01-31-2020, 08:45 PM | #194 | |
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If FORD sent a 500 for testing against a ZLE and a Redeye why send it with shit tires? Makes no sense. I don't want to suggest that it was a built in excuse for being slower but why? This was your flagship halo model CFTP 500. If a tire failed and Randy crashed that would have been disastrous. Doesn't seem worth it to me. |
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As mentioned above, they should have provided some data on all the cars tires tread depth (vs. new)j, general condition, and maybe some close-up photos. Not ensuring both cars were set to the manufacturer's alignment specs for track usage was another pretty big miss.
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Maybe there's an unspoken agreement between them and Ford. If the gt500 loses you spin a reason as to why, if not we won't loan you another car lol A little far fetched, just like sending a car on shot (are well cooked shot or just not optimal?lol) to compete against it's rivals.
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