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Incredible work!
Yeah, my vision of the front fascia definitely comes forward a little bit more while continuing to slope downward so the entirety of the upper grille and lights are lower. In addition, it pulls the center out further so it isn't quite as blunt/flat as viewed from above... not to a sharp point, but more rounded. Because it would be pulled out further, it wouldn't interfere with the hood latch or radiator support structure. In general, it would be slightly smaller appearing and less flat than the 5thgen, whereas that looks to me like it goes the other way. I've tried, but I can't get the headlights to look right in my mind without them following the shape of the opening. They just looked sort of tacked on when following the upper edge only. I have a couple ideas to fix that that don't necessarily copy my original mod but I'm out of time! I don't mean to be a negative nancy or whatever, overall that is very cool and it's obvious you've put a ton of work into it! Just trying to offer constructive criticism. |
I will 2nd Alltrbo....Incredible! This is cool stuff.
But I must also agree with the above comments. That front nose has got to come down some to descrease the huge "wall" of a front fascia that currently exists. I'm sure you've done this in proportion to your earlier renderings, but when I look at them side by side the grill to fog light distance looks longer in these 3D builds. It is coming together nicely though. One thought I had, is how would the LED lights (upper and lower) look without the head lights on? I and many others LOVE to run around with just the halos and the fog lights on and I'd love to be able to do the same with this car. I think this design looks great with the headlights on, but with them off I'm not sure about. Maybe you could show us? |
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Here's a straight side and front view if that will help: Attachment 561802 Attachment 561803 And although I suppose I'm making this look somewhat easy by just posting up work-in-progress snapshots this is actually taking a fair amount of effort to learn this software and make it do what you're seeing. This ain't easy. On top of that, now that I'm able to work in 3D space I can see issues with my original 2D drawings that have to be worked out and redesigned, so I'm also reworking things in addition to creating the original objects to fit the 2D views. The fact that I was able to get this to look like a car with lights sitting in a room was actually a pretty cool moment for me. :) Quote:
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Doc, I know how hard 3D modeling is. I tried my hand at it several years ago and my program wasn't nearly as sophisticated as your seems to be.
All I was meaning was I think that area needs attention next. I think it might have come across wrong in my post. I think that is why they enlarged the lower grille on the 14's when they narrowed up the upper grille, to keep from having that big empty space between them. |
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That area in the front is one of those things that appears different in 3D compared to 2D. I've got my brain working in the background on what I could do to improve that front area. Making the bottom openings huge on the refresh was not a good solution in my opinion but it may be that I might also just leave this area alone. That whole front would be the impact area in a collision so making changes there would have to be done carefully. I may also find some free 3D models I can download of something else; maybe a motorcycle or something for contrast so people can get a perspective on the actual sizes of the shapes on this car. It's not as big as a 5th gen. Plus I've been taking low angle screenshots so the lights and front detail would be easier to see. For now I'm going to work on the back; been spending too much time on the front area and I need to clear my brain and work on something different. I also need to figure out how to pull in the side of the car at the coke bottle waist point without messing up the geometry. And then do a proper version of the wheels. And then an interior... lol. I have to say though this has been an extremely interesting project to work on and I've learned a LOT already just in what I've done so far. |
Nice work there! It's not retro enough though. Don't get me wrong, I like it but I was thinking we need to get away from the 5th Gen since it's been done already. Go with something that no one has seen before and has elements which are familiar, that's the idea of a concept car. Make it reminiscent of the 2nd or 3rd Gen. Now that will catch people's eye.
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So hours of designs and discussions and the 3D rendering looks like a 2014 Camaro with different headlights and lower bumper.
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What are the dims on your Camaro?
Wheel Base Front Track Rear Track Length Width Height ATS Wheelbase (in / mm): 109.3 / 2775 Length (in / mm): 182.8 / 4643 Height (in / mm): 55.9 / 1421 Width (in / mm): 71.1 / 1805 Track (in / mm): Front: 59.5 / 1512 Rear: 60.9 / 1548 2014 Camaro WHEEL BASE 9 ft. 4.3 in. (112.3 in.) LENGTH 15 ft. 10.6 in. (190.6 in.) HEIGHT 4 ft. 6.2 in. (54.2 in.) WIDTH 6 ft. 3.5 in. (75.5 in.) FRONT TRACK 5 ft. 3.7 in. (63.7 in.) REAR TRACK 5 ft. 4.1 in. (64.1 in.) |
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Attachment 562145 The back of the car (which is still a work in progress) looks NOTHING like the 2014 model. Attachment 562146 Neither does the side view other than that one small area in the upper grill. Attachment 562147 Quote:
Wheel Base 116.9 in. (ATS 109.3 in.) Front Track 66 in. (ATS 59.5 in.) Rear Track 66 in. (ATS 60.9 in.) Length 180 in. (ATS 182.8 in.) Width 80 in. (ATS 71.1 in.) Height 52 in. (ATS 55.9 in.) I'll have to take a close look at what it would take to change the dimensions on my model but since they're mostly real close it shouldn't change the look much other than the width. All I would have to actually change is the track, wheel base and body width. The height and length I can keep. Thanks for posting that Pete! :thumbsup: |
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Attachment 562246 Attachment 562247 I did the V6 back first and while doing the V8 back I figured out how to do something that I can use on the V6 back. The tail lights on the V6 model will be recessed like the V8 lights are. |
Sorry, but guys, are you all blind? Awesome? It`s ugly AF! Looks like some cheap honda or something.
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I think from the side it looks like an 04 monte carlo.
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