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Old 03-25-2018, 02:24 PM   #1
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Big Red A10 ZL1

This is my 5th Camaro in 7 years. That was 3 5th Gens, a 2016 M6 SS, and now an A10 ZL1. It has been a non-stop thrill ride for an old motor head.

This is My first Hi-Po car with an automatic, ever since my 1969 Auto GTO I bought for $800. It was a difficult decision for me to go auto, but liking it so far.

I am calling this thread Big Red. Everything about the car is larger than life. The color, the sound, the look. It gets a ton of attention. And it causes other cars to rev thier engines or try to pull me every time I go for a drive. Silly boys, meet me at Atco.

I have been a big fan of the ZL1 since 1969. It was and is the most legendary Camaro ever in my view. It was and is the most legendary Camaro ever in my view. More here on the ZL1-Z28-Z/28 controversy:

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114054

Here are some pics:



MT Pic: (My favorite red ZL1 Pic. Have a favorite ZL1 pic to show me?)


My Pics:

At the 2018 Fall brawl!


The first time I saw this car was here:





My last 4 Camaros:
2016 M6 SS:

2016 Mosaic Black M6 2SS

2015 M6 ZL1: (Bought back by GM)

2015 Black M6 ZL1

2013 1LE: (Twin turbos! But eventually totalled)

2013 Inferno Orange 2SS M6 1LE

2011 LS3 SS:

2011 Black M6 2SS

My Atco thread is here:

Mustang Versus GT

The '18 ZL1 is:
  • Red Hot
  • A10
  • Sunroof
  • Navigation
  • Carbon Fiber Hood Bubble
  • PDR

Loving the car so far.

Initially my plans for the car will only be mild mods. I plan to do them slowly one at a time and I will document those changes here.

Mods so far:
  • Boost Adjustment
  • ZL1 STO-N-SHO Removable Front License Plate Bracket
    Back to stock here, I went through 2 of these. The Splitter is too low for these to work.
  • Red Tow Hook painted black
  • License Plate Frames painted black
  • ZL1 Addon Fender Flaps
  • DragStar 17x10.5 rims
  • MT ET Street 17x305 SS street/strip compromise DRs
  • Rotofab
  • ADM Coolant reservoir

Big Red at Atco:


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Old 03-25-2018, 04:03 PM   #2
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Congrats! Beautiful ride! Didn't take you long to get back in the game. I guess your Atco Mustang buddy Pat had better look out now.
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Old 03-25-2018, 06:04 PM   #3
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Looks like you decided how to spend you bonus. Good choice. Congrats.
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Old 03-25-2018, 06:26 PM   #4
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Very nice Sir
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Old 03-25-2018, 06:51 PM   #5
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Thanks! This one could be a keeper. And yea Pat better watch out if he bought a 2018 GT. Otherwise his old GT is more than 1/2 a second faster than Big Red. For now.

Edit: Pat kept his Paxton charged GT and is running 10.3s. Now he is thinking convertor to start skimming the 9s. No beating Pat without a cage or a Demon. LOL

One other reason for buying a new ZL1 now is getting $8K off list. I started looking used but the new ones were within a couple thousand and were a year newer. Nothing like buying a car with 6 miles on it. They did not allow you to drive it until after you bought it. Only one dealer let me drive a ZL1 and it was an A10. It is so much more fun than I thought it would be and it is more relaxing to drive than a manual. And a big benefit in a traffic jam.

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Old 03-30-2018, 10:11 PM   #6
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First Mods.

The LT4 Boost Adjustment:

Thread Here


ZL1 STO-N-SHO Removable Front License Plate Bracket and Tow Hook

There are several solutions to the front license plate problem. The STO N SHOW seems like the best solution to me with the least blockage with the plate on and so easy to remove it completely.



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Old 04-07-2018, 06:57 AM   #7
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Plate Frames:

I bought a cheap version of the ZL1 Plate frame to try it out. First I put it on the front:


But too much ZL1, I like it better on the back:



Then I added the ZL1 Add On fender Flaps. The fronts were great and install in minutes:



The backs though are a poor fit. The plastic spacers are not wide enough and the curve is a sloppy fit. These simple pieces of plastic are very expensive and I feel a little ripped off. They say to fill the gap with black putty. In their defense I am not sure how it could fit better. Do yourself a favor and remove the wheels for a less frustrating a 5 minute install






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Old 04-07-2018, 08:13 PM   #8
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Wow.. Congrats! Looking forward to watching your build progress! I'm loving every rev in your old car My wife took it on a two hour journey today with a girlfriend of hers.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:56 AM   #9
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Old Mans's Car Blog

I have enjoyed writing since the 7th grade where I wrote my first short story which was well received at the time. Some day if I ever retire from the software business, I hope to spend more time writing, I really enjoy my drag racing thread and that has turned out to be sort of a blog. So I decided to set up a real blog to rattle on about how the automobile has been a part of my life since I started walking. I think I can thank my Dad for this life long obsession.

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Old 07-11-2018, 08:50 AM   #10
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To start I think the ZL1 is the perfect fun car for me. It is very fast, handles mountain roads as if on rails, and if I turn the air on and go to tour mode, the ZL1 is a great touring car other than the rough ride. But can I improve on perfection without ruining the basic goodness baked in by Chevy? Can I have a 10 second car without going crazy and not worry about going to the dealer?

I have been reading the forums and watching videos to get ideas about where I will go with this ZL1. From all my past experience modding cars I know to take it slow and carefully research each mod. Nothing radical here I want to keep this car long term. The ZL1 hits all my buttons as is. I just want to make it my own.

Phase 1.
Over all goals:
  • Traction improvement
  • Different Look
  • Lighter wheels
  • Heat Transfer
  • More SC whine
  • Deeper exhaust tone
  • 5 HP
The Mods:Possible Phase 2
I reserve the right to be happy with Phase 1, but as we all know power is addictive.

Over all goals:
  • More power
  • Keep the Stock look of the engine
  • Keep the great sounding exhaust from Phase 1
The Mods:

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Old 07-11-2018, 04:46 PM   #11
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Porting, Rotofab, NW 103 power!

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Old 09-30-2018, 11:24 AM   #12
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Big Red Phase 1

Phase 1 underway.

I decided to hold off on the ZR1 MRR replica rims. Maybe later. For now I am tired of spinning at Atco. Also leaving the exhaust stock for now. My trigger was too much spinning st Atco. Plus it will make Snowblind happier.

Phase 1 Upgrades:
  • ADM SC coolant reservoir
  • Dragstar 17x10.5 rims
  • Mickey Thompson 17x305R45 ET Street SS DRs
  • Rotofab

I plan to drive on the MTs so I went with the SS version with a little more tread. I would have rather put on Nitto NT555Rs as they are a better compromise tire. But Nitto does not make a 17 that are the correct height.

The ADM reservoir does add a tiny bit of coolant surface, but it's best feature is you no longer need to get the dealer involved when you remove the SC.

The Rotofab is mostly for sound, but 10 extra HP won't hurt.
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I finally added DRs toBig Red:

I went with MTT-3472 ET Street S/S, P305/45-17 as these have a sticky compound but have at least a little water run off if you get stuck in the rain. But at low pressure @100+ they will wander around a bit. Spooky when you are used to the on rails ZL1 feeling.


and Race Star 17x10.5 5x120 32 Offset 92 Drag Star Bracket Racer Metallic Gray Wheel
RAS-92-705253G


A pair $468.58 shipped.

I was going to go with black, but the grey was cheaper and sort of match the stockers. Later I want to go with black MRR ZR1 19" wheels and Toyos R888Rs in the back. Once you start modding these cars you need more grip than the stockers. One guy I met at Atco with a new ZL1 already totaled his ZL1 on the street after getting loose and meeting a guardrail. He was fine thankfully. With 800 miles on the clock his ZL1 was running faster at atco than my ZL1 with 6K miles. And I shared my launching techniques with him. Funny. He should tell me what he was doing.

Then you need this package
+ https://www.summitracing.com/parts/RCE-601-1428-10

Hint: When installing the RaceStar lugs lightly oil the outside of the lug barrels. 140 torque.

No worries about moving the drivers side rear wheelwell connector. I think Chevy moved it for us.

I like to keep the air pressure monitor with DRs:

https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oem-pa...r-nut-13581557

https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oem-pa...ensor-13598787




No benefit so far as to my 60's or ETs.

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Old 10-26-2018, 05:10 PM   #14
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Rotofab

I also added the Rotofab to my ZL1. Looks cool but some of the more knowledgeable ZL1ers are telling me it will hurt my ETs. Not so in my first track runs with the ZL1 See below. I am running more 11.4s now. The DRs have not helped me at all, yet. My best 60's are on stock tires, like 1.74s. The extra SC whine is a nice touch. I have seen stock air box mods that sound like they are at least as good as a Rotofab for making more power, but where is the eye candy? My RF drag strip testing post below.

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No dyno here, but in my view this is even more powerful. Part of my Atco report from last night below. Take from it what you will.

Also in full disclosure I am wearing a Rotofab TShirt they gave me some time ago. I am wearing it today to work! Of course I work from home with my huge dog Millie. She approves. I can also say the RF shirt is one of the coolest looking Tshirts I have. Almost as good as my Great Dane shirt.


The DA was around +1300 with windshields fogging up from the moisture. I did not expect much.

But I was testing my new Rotofab Dry. I have done track testing in the past with isolated changes. One test was in my 5th gen stock 1LE where I installed a CAI CAI, scoop, and DRs and picked up a full 1/2 second. Wowza!

I wasn't expecting much as my Rotofab dry on my '16 SS gave only 5 rwhp on the JRE Dyno. But it was pretty! Here as the ONLY change on my stock A10 ZL1 it made a noticeable difference. I was pleasantly surprised as an Internet HP expert recently told me the RF would kill my 60'. No such thing happened. My 60's were mif 1.7s to mid 1.8s.

And my ET
got a boost! Recent Comparative DA slips posted Below. Over the last month I struggle to get into the 1.5s. One of those slips below where i squeaked in.

Now in not so good weather 11.5s are a breeze!

My runs:

11.549@124.124
11.520@121.65
11.503@123.14
11.501@122.90
11.499@122.50

I didn't notice a difference on the street, but the track proves the improvement.

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