04-30-2023, 05:29 PM | #659 |
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they will bastardize the Camaro name like the Mustang. I care, some of you care, but my kids, kids will not give a crap.
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04-30-2023, 06:11 PM | #660 | |
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I don’t care how fast it goes with its electric motor. It’s not my Corvette/Camaro.
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04-30-2023, 07:27 PM | #661 | |
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so much to process
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EVs are an entirely different vehicle. The more time between ICE and EV will ease the unease having to explain an EV Camaro compared to an ICE Camaro. Expecting gm to not bastardize the Camaro name at some point, I think is too much wishful thinking....lol |
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04-30-2023, 08:08 PM | #663 |
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I mean seriously, watch how distracted they are with the controls, the mileage, the just general uneasiness.
I am sure it is the same as horse to ICE -- but a shitton more people on the road now.
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No doubt it comes back as something you don't recognize. The best possible outcome given GM's current strategy is a low roof EV coupe. Sporty coupes just aren't selling though right now so we'll see if they elect to create a MachE competitor. I think though the Blazer EV SS is that so that give me hope a CUV won't get the Camaro nameplate.
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Maybe this is what GM is banking on; That the younger generation may not care so much. Fine, but what we (I) mean by compromise is that the future Camaro generation will not mean or perform or sound the same way as its forebearer. You can make a car handle and even accelerate, but can you do this in the style and passion as the originals? It would be a farce and a sad state of affairs to even try to mimic the sound and feel of an original Camaro.
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EV ranges average 12.5% less than advertised. Why am I not surprised? So the Mach E, advertised at 305 I believe will likely only go 267 miles. Then if you avoid charging past 80% its range drops to 214 miles. Throw in cold weather and you have a $50,000 vehicle with a range less than 200 miles a charge. P.T. Barnum was onto something.
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05-01-2023, 05:19 PM | #672 |
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Didn't a bunch of MFGs get in big trouble about range in ICE and have to pay out? Hyudai comes to mind.
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