09-20-2019, 11:20 AM | #99 | |
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With wages keeping up with inflation, it isn't a raise. Their buying power doesn't go up. The effective wage remains the same. Food, services, cars, other products go up in price to match inflation. The employee making the same amount sees the cost of everything getting more expensive and now can't afford what they used to be able to. Receiving more money than the rate of inflation would be a raise. |
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09-20-2019, 11:35 AM | #100 | |
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09-20-2019, 12:40 PM | #101 |
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As an employer myself I have seen this play out many times when it comes to COLA and minimum wage increases. Minimum wage goes up to $15 in LA? Now suddenly all our employees was a big raise, even though they already make more than $15. They want to keep the same relative distance from minimum wage as they had before. Cost of living and rent keeps going up? People again are looking for big raises.
The issue is, as a company we don't make more money just because rent went up for employees or because Los Angeles signs a new minimum wage bill. The market is fiercely competitive for us and we don't have the option of just raising prices to cover high payroll. We do have the ability to raise ones pay if they are able to produce more for the company however. |
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The problem is why do we see increases in the cost of living in the first place. Ideally we adapt, use technology and learn to produce goods more efficiently, which should bring the cost of living down. I think to some degree we constantly expect more as far as standard of living, but I think inflation of the money supply is the greatest reason for the constant increase in living cost. Our currency is being devalued by our government and the federal reserve.
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09-20-2019, 06:08 PM | #103 | |
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09-20-2019, 06:09 PM | #104 |
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Merit and Performance as per who's judgement?
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09-20-2019, 06:20 PM | #105 |
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Simple...Unions are leaches!
A company can survive without a union, but a union cannot survive without a company. Growing up and living in a State that is a Union state, I've seen how a union will make a good worker a lazy one, and expects to get paid for doing little to no work. Unions will always fight for higher pay because they take a % of the workers pay...the more the worker makes the more the union gets. I know some dock workers that make more than doctors and they only have a high school degree...if that. However, they or their parents knows someone in the union...it's not about WHAT you know, but about WHO you know. With that said, I don't think any CEO should get paid as much as the GM CEO does if it has a union. Better to get rid of the union and take a lesser pay to take care of your workers. I'd like to see how much a ZL1 LE1 or a ZR1 would cost if the CEO made less and there was no UAW union. Unions Suck!
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09-20-2019, 06:32 PM | #106 |
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Your boss, just like every other employee in the free world.
A lot of what will go to the local level will be getting people their jobs back that most of the union employees would agree, shouldn’t get their jobs back. Regardless of who evaluated them.
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09-20-2019, 06:33 PM | #107 |
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A lot of bright minds here! I just joined this site a few days ago and read this whole thread and found it very interesting.
Globalization is here and I don't know what the answer is as far as this topic is concerned. All I can say is I'm really glad I got my brand new SS before it becomes 2002 again.
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09-20-2019, 06:34 PM | #108 | |
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Given today's shareholders/wall street above all else business culture, lets say the UAW went away and GM was able to lower the workers salaries/benefits, how much would they lower it vs pocket the money and show wall street and shareholders how much their profit margins went up? Sure we might see the price lower some for public perception, but it probably won't drop as much it could...... |
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09-20-2019, 07:44 PM | #109 |
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Whether I support unions or not doesn't really come into play when my door is messed up with a bad wiring harness and it is sitting at the dealership because they haven't gotten parts in 4 days. You want to strike, that is your prerogative but for Chevrolet to shut down globally isn't really a solution when a company gets that big. Neither is having the threat of going on strike carry so much weight. To me unions did great things in this country long ago when they were needed. I used to be a trucker and I can tell you the teamsters never did shit for me when all I did was everything I could for them. Greed is a terrible thing and setting my soapbox aside I just want my car fixed.
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09-20-2019, 09:14 PM | #110 |
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It should be $0.00. Let prospective workers tell an employer who offers insufficient wages for their individual circumstances to go pound sand, and see how long the employer lasts without employees.
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