[Grumpy1]

I'm in the process of finalizing my build and the only thing I'm not sure of is a cam. I know this decision will definitely effect my end Hp, Trying to figure out if a cam package is worth the extra dollars and do I need that much power.
Has anyone regretted camming their car. I guess this would mainly be for those that the car is mainly for street use.
Mine is not a daily driver, my only real issue is do I want to go into the motor or just go full bolt on. When I say bolt on I meaning Maggie 2650, headers, cai, etc.....
Not that it matters but out of curiosity how often will I be pulling up to the gas station?? Lol

[ZLAV1N]

Yes, I would 100% recommend a mild cam and while you're inside the engine... swap out the oil pump. After my car was done I actually wished I had gone with a little more aggressive cam but she is fantastic & drives like stock, until you get into her.

My build thread - https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589244

[Grumpy1]

Yeah, I thought about changing the oil pump if I go that route...…
Need to see if katech ever came out with one for the Gen6...

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Grumpy1

I'm in the process of finalizing my build and the only thing I'm not sure of is a cam. I know this decision will definitely effect my end Hp, Trying to figure out if a cam package is worth the extra dollars and do I need that much power.
Has anyone regretted camming their car. I guess this would mainly be for those that the car is mainly for street use.
Mine is not a daily driver, my only real issue is do I want to go into the motor or just go full bolt on. When I say bolt on I meaning Maggie 2650, headers, cai, etc.....
Not that it matters but out of curiosity how often will I be pulling up to the gas station?? Lol

You're looking at about 800hp max, or 700whp before you have to install a cam so you just need to decide if that's enough power for you or not. Its real easy to get caught up chasing big power numbers and end up never being able to use it on the street or a road course. I would ask, what is your intended purpose with the vehicle because anything above 700whp or so, and you're going to need to run drag radials for traction. That's not something everyone wants to commit to. And then I would ask if you plan to go that far, are you planning to spend a lot of time at the drag strip, because it not, you're not going to enjoy the power very much if you're spinning all the time.

If you should decide to install a cam, you can choose a cam with a smooth idle but still has a 32% fuel lobe for more fuel.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Grumpy1

I'm in the process of finalizing my build and the only thing I'm not sure of is a cam. I know this decision will definitely effect my end Hp, Trying to figure out if a cam package is worth the extra dollars and do I need that much power.
Has anyone regretted camming their car. I guess this would mainly be for those that the car is mainly for street use.
Mine is not a daily driver, my only real issue is do I want to go into the motor or just go full bolt on. When I say bolt on I meaning Maggie 2650, headers, cai, etc.....
Not that it matters but out of curiosity how often will I be pulling up to the gas station?? Lol

A custom valve train (with plenty of fuel lobe) was my first mod because I knew all future mods seeking HP would benefit from it. I drive my 1LE on daily +/- 20-30 mile cruises

[SFV1LE]

Originally Posted by JSH

A custom valve train (with plenty of fuel lobe) was my first mod because I knew all future mods seeking HP would benefit from it. I drive my 1LE on daily +/- 20-30 mile cruises

When you say you drive daily 20-30 mile cruises you mean you commute to work with it right? I assume yes, but "cruises" sounds more like recreational driving than a commute.

[swisstyphoon]

Originally Posted by Grumpy1

I'm in the process of finalizing my build and the only thing I'm not sure of is a cam. I know this decision will definitely effect my end Hp, Trying to figure out if a cam package is worth the extra dollars and do I need that much power.
Has anyone regretted camming their car. I guess this would mainly be for those that the car is mainly for street use.
Mine is not a daily driver, my only real issue is do I want to go into the motor or just go full bolt on. When I say bolt on I meaning Maggie 2650, headers, cai, etc.....
Not that it matters but out of curiosity how often will I be pulling up to the gas station?? Lol

The fuel system will set the limit of your max. HP.
A cam would help, because you can choose a higher fuel lobe for the high pressure pump. There are some good options for smooth idle/mild cams available as well. This would also eliminate the DOD lifters that occasionally fail.
Jannetty smooth idle
Katech K3
Cammotion PD 220/236 -118 or 119, 120
Lingenfelter GT31 or GT35

And yes definitely install the Katech wet sump oil pump at the same time!

[Camaro1973]

+1 for cam, also add headwork to that. As it will add more power and lower your boost levels at the same time.


My cam is middle of the road, slight buck @ idle. Past 1k rpm's drives no different then stock, except for the power.

[ZLAV1N]

Originally Posted by Grumpy1

Yeah, I thought about changing the oil pump if I go that route...…
Need to see if katech ever came out with one for the Gen6...

They did. It is in my engine now as it was part of my build.

Z OH 6 makes a very good point about being realistic (and honest) with yourself on what you are planning on using the car for.

[swisstyphoon]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

+1 for cam, also add headwork to that. As it will add more power and lower your boost levels at the same time.


My cam is middle of the road, slight buck @ idle. Past 1k rpm's drives no different then stock, except for the power.

How much boost are you seeing with your setup?

[JSH]

Originally Posted by SFV1LE

When you say you drive daily 20-30 mile cruises you mean you commute to work with it right? I assume yes, but "cruises" sounds more like recreational driving than a commute.

Just recreational. Semi-retired.

[Grumpy1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

You're looking at about 800hp max, or 700whp before you have to install a cam so you just need to decide if that's enough power for you or not. Its real easy to get caught up chasing big power numbers and end up never being able to use it on the street or a road course. I would ask, what is your intended purpose with the vehicle because anything above 700whp or so, and you're going to need to run drag radials for traction. That's not something everyone wants to commit to. And then I would ask if you plan to go that far, are you planning to spend a lot of time at the drag strip, because it not, you're not going to enjoy the power very much if you're spinning all the time.

If you should decide to install a cam, you can choose a cam with a smooth idle but still has a 32% fuel lobe for more fuel.

When I first started thinking about things I was wanting somewhere in 700-750rwhp range then 800. Since the Maggie 2650 came out this is pretty easily done depending on fuel of course. It's just that the power is so easily available it's hard to say not to go all out. Lol
It will see only the occasional trip to the drag strip and no road course, so it will be mainly a street car.
So would be putting the cam in be too much power??????
I know I can always add it at anytime. I'm just the type that likes to do everything I want in one move.
I'm also at sea level so that should make a difference to a degree....

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by swisstyphoon

How much boost are you seeing with your setup?

Right about 15psi.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Grumpy1

When I first started thinking about things I was wanting somewhere in 700-750rwhp range then 800. Since the Maggie 2650 came out this is pretty easily done depending on fuel of course. It's just that the power is so easily available it's hard to say not to go all out. Lol
It will see only the occasional trip to the drag strip and no road course, so it will be mainly a street car.
So would be putting the cam in be too much power??????
I know I can always add it at anytime. I'm just the type that likes to do everything I want in one move.
I'm also at sea level so that should make a difference to a degree....

Coming from someone that had a 1000+ HP Hellcat, I can tell you that you need to be realistic about what you want to do with the car. I started off small too, then you just keep adding more power chasing numbers until you realize that your street driven car is no longer fun to drive on the street anymore because traction doesn't exist. You can have a 1000hp and a 500hp car blow your doors off from a red light because you can't get the power down and that's really frustrating. Running drag radials is an option but there comes a point when even a Nitto 555R2 (which is the best street driven drag radial) won't hook up anymore and then the only choice is a Mickey Thompson ET Street R. When you get to that point, you're no longer going to be able to drive the car on the street anymore because the soft rubber doesn't last and the MT ET Street R's really can't be driven in the rain.

All this comes down to, don't let your ego get the best of you. Bragging rights is cool for a bit but doesn't matter much anymore when you've already told everyone what you have and then you can't really get the power down to enjoy it. You'll likely end up regretting going too far for your intended purpose.

I really can't stress this enough, be honest with yourself about what you want to do with the car and just build accordingly. 700whp is a LOT in these cars and will give you smiles every time you drive it.