Looking for advice on ATI Super Damper 10% UD Install - Page 2

G2K · 01-10-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfall SS

Outstanding, thanks Yosh for replying. Looks like I'm going to have to leave a trail of beer leading to my garage to get someone to help me out with that belt lol. I feel much better about the alignment as well. Renting the autozone "Chrysler style" puller and an OEM universal installer tonight. Already purchased all the required hazmat to include antiseize for the crank hub and locktight but I will use your recommendation of finding the high temperature version of the blue to play it safe. Thanks again!

Let us know how it goes, and please take pictures if possible!

Nightfall SS · 01-11-2019, 06:59 PM

Quick update as i said screw it for now. Ill do this again in the spring when im not aggravated lol. Removed accesory belt and tensioner super easy. With motor in neutral, turned the motor manually and walked off old ac belt very easy. Breaking the old crank bolt loose was took a bit of ass. First tried 5th gear and found it to mushy as it allowed alot of backwards movement in the motor however with it in 4th (1:1) it was much better. Now the problems:

1. The autozone rental chrysler style 3 jaw puller will not work stock. The jaw size is fine however it comes with a shorter and longer rod. The longer rod is nowhere near long enough to even get the remover fully tought none the less actually pull anything. In addition, the bolt that threads through the jaw of the puller was slightly cross threaded so i advise to run the threads through by hand while your still in the auto store. Secondly the autozone rental long reach installer will require as far as i can see the removal of the fans. Not that i got that far but while im sitting here drinking i decided to take a look at it and it wont even angle correctly to get to the crank hole(at least with the oem pully still on but that tells me trying to angle it to get it out after seating the ati could be a pita. We are having the snowpocalypse here in st louis right now otherwise id walk to lowes to see if maybe they have a thin barstock solution i could maybe cut to size to use the puller succesfully.

Anyways in short just providing some good lessons learned. Now ill go wrestle the ac belt back on and find the maf screw i dropped in the bay..and drink.

G2K · 04-05-2019, 10:22 PM

Just purchased this used of another member. Any recommendations or what to look for? It will also come with an ARP bolt are ARP bolts TTY also like the OEM ones?

JCunningham · 04-05-2019, 10:52 PM

auto or manual tranny? how did you keep the engine from turning over?

biker2k · 04-06-2019, 07:52 AM

what are anyone's impressions after doing this mod?
does car feel smoother, faster?
was it worth it?

G2K · 04-10-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by biker2k

what are anyone's impressions after doing this mod?
does car feel smoother, faster?
was it worth it?

I will be installing mine tonight... Ill post pics and feedback later

Umbriel · 04-10-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by danhr

It kills two birds with one stone, as you need am SFI approved balancer to go 10.99 or faster

Is this an NHRA rule or track rule or what? Never heard of this and my last car was going 8s on the stock one and no one ever said a word.

andes101 · 05-07-2019, 04:39 PM

Do these install the same for autos and manuals?

LARRY01Z28 · 02-26-2020, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biker2k

what are anyone's impressions after doing this mod?
does car feel smoother, faster?
was it worth it?

no one that has installed it has any feedback? or dyno numbers? im interested in this as well. for 525 bucks I don't know if a lot of people are doing this mod?

oldman · 02-26-2020, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfall SS

Quick update as i said screw it for now. Ill do this again in the spring when im not aggravated lol. Removed accesory belt and tensioner super easy. With motor in neutral, turned the motor manually and walked off old ac belt very easy. Breaking the old crank bolt loose was took a bit of ass. First tried 5th gear and found it to mushy as it allowed alot of backwards movement in the motor however with it in 4th (1:1) it was much better. Now the problems:

1. The autozone rental chrysler style 3 jaw puller will not work stock. The jaw size is fine however it comes with a shorter and longer rod. The longer rod is nowhere near long enough to even get the remover fully tought none the less actually pull anything. In addition, the bolt that threads through the jaw of the puller was slightly cross threaded so i advise to run the threads through by hand while your still in the auto store. Secondly the autozone rental long reach installer will require as far as i can see the removal of the fans. Not that i got that far but while im sitting here drinking i decided to take a look at it and it wont even angle correctly to get to the crank hole(at least with the oem pully still on but that tells me trying to angle it to get it out after seating the ati could be a pita. We are having the snowpocalypse here in st louis right now otherwise id walk to lowes to see if maybe they have a thin barstock solution i could maybe cut to size to use the puller succesfully.

I think i just used a 3/8 drive extention shoved into the cank

Yosh6 · 02-27-2020, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARRY01Z28

no one that has installed it has any feedback? or dyno numbers? im interested in this as well. for 525 bucks I don't know if a lot of people are doing this mod?

Larry, I'm glad I did it. Do I feel anything different? No. ATI claims that it adds a little (8-12 hp) to the WHP. I have read in the NHRA rule book that it is a requirement if you go 10.99 or quicker. Has a tech inspector ever said anything about it to me, no.

Bottom line to me is just peace of mind that the harmonics of the rotating mass in the engine is protected, I'm playing by the rules, and, just maybe, this along with a lot of other little things I've done make the car a tenth faster.

KingLT1 · 02-27-2020, 08:43 AM

I have one on mine...it came with my Whipple kit. Can not say if it adds anything. I am sure it's a better piece then the stock unit. Pretty sure I seen another thread a while back where it made 8-9whp gain.

6spdhyperblue · 02-27-2020, 09:21 AM

It smooths out the nvh from the engine into the cab. Car doesn’t go slower with it.

AlphaCamaro7 · 08-20-2020, 11:45 PM

guys wouldn't it be easier to remove the bumper to install it?

01-11-2019, 06:59 PM	#16
Nightfall SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: ST Louis, MO Posts: 62	Quick update as i said screw it for now. Ill do this again in the spring when im not aggravated lol. Removed accesory belt and tensioner super easy. With motor in neutral, turned the motor manually and walked off old ac belt very easy. Breaking the old crank bolt loose was took a bit of ass. First tried 5th gear and found it to mushy as it allowed alot of backwards movement in the motor however with it in 4th (1:1) it was much better. Now the problems: 1. The autozone rental chrysler style 3 jaw puller will not work stock. The jaw size is fine however it comes with a shorter and longer rod. The longer rod is nowhere near long enough to even get the remover fully tought none the less actually pull anything. In addition, the bolt that threads through the jaw of the puller was slightly cross threaded so i advise to run the threads through by hand while your still in the auto store. Secondly the autozone rental long reach installer will require as far as i can see the removal of the fans. Not that i got that far but while im sitting here drinking i decided to take a look at it and it wont even angle correctly to get to the crank hole(at least with the oem pully still on but that tells me trying to angle it to get it out after seating the ati could be a pita. We are having the snowpocalypse here in st louis right now otherwise id walk to lowes to see if maybe they have a thin barstock solution i could maybe cut to size to use the puller succesfully. Anyways in short just providing some good lessons learned. Now ill go wrestle the ac belt back on and find the maf screw i dropped in the bay..and drink. __________________ 1. Phastek detachable front license plate bracket 2. Blacked out Bowties 3. Blacked out sidemarkers/third brakelight 4. Rotofab dry/no soundtube CAI 5. VMAX ported throttlebody 6. Kooks 1 7/8 Longtubes with Hi-Flow Cats 7. EFI Tuning Flex Fuel kit and tune 8. HP Tuners NGAUGE 9. Zeitronix ZT-2 Wideband(reads on NGAUGE) 10. Ported MSD intake manifold 11. CORSA XTREME axle back w/ dual quad black tips 12. Racestar Darkstars 17X9.5 with Mickey Thompson ET Street SS 305-45 17 Radials 13. Kicker 3-way door speakers. DYNOCOM mobile dyno trailer: 471hp/490TQ@97degrees ambient/ethanol percentage=80%

04-05-2019, 10:22 PM	#17
G2K @Blackmamba_1LE Drives: 2017 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 740	Just purchased this used of another member. Any recommendations or what to look for? It will also come with an ARP bolt are ARP bolts TTY also like the OEM ones? __________________ OG: Pray Perf FBO ET:11.5 @119 THEN:LT4 SC, E85 + Meth :10.6 @135 NOW: H/C Whipple 416ci

04-05-2019, 10:52 PM	#18
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	auto or manual tranny? how did you keep the engine from turning over? __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

04-06-2019, 07:52 AM	#19
biker2k Drives: 2018 2ss 1le Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 474	what are anyone's impressions after doing this mod? does car feel smoother, faster? was it worth it? __________________ 2018 2ss 1le roto fab dry, Stainless works 1 7/8 lt to 3'" x pipe with highflow cats to stock npp, soler 95mm t/b, edelbrock 2300, LT4 fueling , jms bap and dsx flex fuel, 618/620 on e45 rwhp Jannetty Motorsports tuned

02-27-2020, 08:43 AM	#26
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,793	I have one on mine...it came with my Whipple kit. Can not say if it adds anything. I am sure it's a better piece then the stock unit. Pretty sure I seen another thread a while back where it made 8-9whp gain. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

05-07-2019, 04:39 PM	#22
andes101 Drives: 2016 2ss Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Myers Posts: 63	Do these install the same for autos and manuals?

02-27-2020, 09:21 AM	#27
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	It smooths out the nvh from the engine into the cab. Car doesn’t go slower with it. __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

08-20-2020, 11:45 PM	#28
AlphaCamaro7 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, NPP, A8, FBO, E85 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Springfield,VA Posts: 884 View My Garage	guys wouldn't it be easier to remove the bumper to install it? __________________ Well............ At least you tried. lol

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