Brand new SS1LE 6sp/ Brand new engine with 30 miles

danf1000 · 11-15-2019, 11:13 PM

brought it home today and ready to pull the pistons, rings, rods, bearings and install forged and performance parts

i wanna do big supercharged boost to 1000 hp

opinions? what would you do?

what brands would you use???

camshaft ideas?

danf1000 · 11-16-2019, 05:07 AM

piston to valve clearance and compression ratio?

is there a recipe out there?

thanks in advance!

redcoats1976 · 11-16-2019, 06:13 AM

you mean brand new under warranty?id drive it as is for a while to keep the warranty going.

danf1000 · 11-16-2019, 06:27 AM

sorry, thanks for dropping in, but im an experienced hot rodder ready for big boosted torque and have the resources for a project like this. it has 30 miles on it and i dont intend on putting any more on it until the engine has been worked over. I am interested in a recipe that provides for 850 or more ft-lbs. I will not be boring and stroking.

Gunkk · 11-16-2019, 06:42 AM

IMO, fueling is the biggest challenge to manage on big-HP 6th gen Camaros.

Select a LONG term power target. 1000 is good
Select the fuel system to get it there. If you want 1000hp now, but will want 1200 in a year or two, don't bother with the 1000hp fuel system. You may be able to just swap injectors from +30% to +45/60% but IMO for the $ you're better off just going big now and using the rest of it later.
Chose a preferred method of boost. A 2650 Maggie sounds right up your alley.
Build the rest around it to get it there.

Glad to see you're starting off right by upgrading the internals.

Puddin · 11-16-2019, 06:59 AM

Yep be prepared to spend a lot of money on the fuel system or run a lot of meth just to get to that 1000. Chevy didn't do us any favors with this fuel system. And as far as power adder id look at the new Huron Speed turbo kit or a Maggie 2650.

s346k · 11-16-2019, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danf1000

I am interested in a recipe that provides for 850 or more ft-lbs.

you must be putting a monster tire on it, tell us about that.

Scottyz · 11-16-2019, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin

Yep be prepared to spend a lot of money on the fuel system or run a lot of meth just to get to that 1000. Chevy didn't do us any favors with this fuel system. And as far as power adder id look at the new Huron Speed turbo kit or a Maggie 2650.

+1

RobbyBeefcake87 · 11-16-2019, 08:13 AM

I saw that RPM recently built a 6th gen 1le making over 1000rwhp. I think it was procharged but there's probably something you take note off of there. There's YouTube videos on the build and I think there was a thread on it here.

c4racer · 11-16-2019, 09:22 AM

I saw a cool TV series about a company called Trans Am WorldWide that is making hot rods based on the 6th gen camaros. Looks like very high dollar builds - must be $75K and up. Anyway they have a superduty 455 that makes 1000hp based on the LT1.
They went through some of the engine development on the show - I suggest trying to find it on demand if you can. Maybe scope out the engine builder they used - I don't recall who it was off the top of my head, but a pretty serious shop. I am assuming this is a project you would partner with an engine builder, not be doing in your garage right?

http://transamdepot.com/superduty/

I believe I have seen Katech come up for this type of project - either on this show or one of the hot rod builder shows - maybe contact them.

And in both cases the company used a very experienced tuner to tune and dial in the motor on a chassis dyno - so I make sure you find the right resource for that as well. I have a very good guy for LS motors based in NC that includes big boost - but not sure he deals in the LT market yet - I can check if that is of interest - PM me. He probably knows who to go to if he doesn't do it - small world there.

https://katechengines.com/engines/

Wherever the TA guys used - I remember they had to fly there to check progress on the engine and then had it transported to their shop which looks like is in FL.

I seriously doubt anybody here on this forum has personal experience building this type of engine based on a LT1 btw. But - we would all love to see your progress so keep us posted please!

LT4Greg · 11-16-2019, 11:40 AM

I would get with Katech for an LT engine build since they work close with GM on the Corvette race teams engines and probably have more experience building the LT1 and LT4 engines! The other company in NC is owned by an ex NASCAR driver/owner that works on Dodge engines too and if I recall the engine they built for the Super Duty TA cost 25,000 to 30,000! After all we are talking about a custom built TA that costs at least $150,000 or more!

LT4Greg · 11-16-2019, 11:49 AM

Joey Arrington did the engine build for the Super Duty TA and his shop is in Concord NC. They build race engines and special builds for companies like Trans Am Depot.

Deputy Dog · 11-16-2019, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danf1000

sorry, thanks for dropping in, but im an experienced hot rodder ready for big boosted torque and have the resources for a project like this. it has 30 miles on it and i dont intend on putting any more on it until the engine has been worked over. I am interested in a recipe that provides for 850 or more ft-lbs. I will not be boring and stroking.

My suggestion is if you are looking for that kind of power is to add some long tube headers, add some Flowmaster axle back muffs, add a brand name CAI intake filter. I think that will get you there.

c4racer · 11-16-2019, 12:15 PM

I would also personally sell the factory motor or pull it and store it.
It’s worth $6K easily and you won’t use much except the block. Maybe the heads.

11-15-2019, 11:13 PM	#1
danf1000 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: possum holler Posts: 16	Brand new SS1LE 6sp/ Brand new engine with 30 miles brought it home today and ready to pull the pistons, rings, rods, bearings and install forged and performance parts i wanna do big supercharged boost to 1000 hp opinions? what would you do? what brands would you use??? camshaft ideas?

11-16-2019, 06:27 AM	#4
danf1000 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: possum holler Posts: 16	sorry, thanks for dropping in, but im an experienced hot rodder ready for big boosted torque and have the resources for a project like this. it has 30 miles on it and i dont intend on putting any more on it until the engine has been worked over. I am interested in a recipe that provides for 850 or more ft-lbs. I will not be boring and stroking. Last edited by danf1000; 11-16-2019 at 06:39 AM.

11-16-2019, 06:42 AM	#5
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 4,978 View My Garage	Go big or go home! IMO, fueling is the biggest challenge to manage on big-HP 6th gen Camaros. Select a LONG term power target. 1000 is good Select the fuel system to get it there. If you want 1000hp now, but will want 1200 in a year or two, don't bother with the 1000hp fuel system. You may be able to just swap injectors from +30% to +45/60% but IMO for the $ you're better off just going big now and using the rest of it later. Chose a preferred method of boost. A 2650 Maggie sounds right up your alley. Build the rest around it to get it there. Glad to see you're starting off right by upgrading the internals.

11-16-2019, 08:13 AM	#9
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,980	I saw that RPM recently built a 6th gen 1le making over 1000rwhp. I think it was procharged but there's probably something you take note off of there. There's YouTube videos on the build and I think there was a thread on it here. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights.

11-16-2019, 11:40 AM	#11
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	I would get with Katech for an LT engine build since they work close with GM on the Corvette race teams engines and probably have more experience building the LT1 and LT4 engines! The other company in NC is owned by an ex NASCAR driver/owner that works on Dodge engines too and if I recall the engine they built for the Super Duty TA cost 25,000 to 30,000! After all we are talking about a custom built TA that costs at least $150,000 or more! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

11-16-2019, 05:07 AM	#2
danf1000 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: possum holler Posts: 16	piston to valve clearance and compression ratio? is there a recipe out there? thanks in advance!

11-16-2019, 06:13 AM	#3
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 4,915	you mean brand new under warranty?id drive it as is for a while to keep the warranty going.

11-16-2019, 06:59 AM	#6
Puddin Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,011	Yep be prepared to spend a lot of money on the fuel system or run a lot of meth just to get to that 1000. Chevy didn't do us any favors with this fuel system. And as far as power adder id look at the new Huron Speed turbo kit or a Maggie 2650.

11-16-2019, 09:22 AM	#10
c4racer Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,108	I saw a cool TV series about a company called Trans Am WorldWide that is making hot rods based on the 6th gen camaros. Looks like very high dollar builds - must be $75K and up. Anyway they have a superduty 455 that makes 1000hp based on the LT1. They went through some of the engine development on the show - I suggest trying to find it on demand if you can. Maybe scope out the engine builder they used - I don't recall who it was off the top of my head, but a pretty serious shop. I am assuming this is a project you would partner with an engine builder, not be doing in your garage right? http://transamdepot.com/superduty/ I believe I have seen Katech come up for this type of project - either on this show or one of the hot rod builder shows - maybe contact them. And in both cases the company used a very experienced tuner to tune and dial in the motor on a chassis dyno - so I make sure you find the right resource for that as well. I have a very good guy for LS motors based in NC that includes big boost - but not sure he deals in the LT market yet - I can check if that is of interest - PM me. He probably knows who to go to if he doesn't do it - small world there. https://katechengines.com/engines/ Wherever the TA guys used - I remember they had to fly there to check progress on the engine and then had it transported to their shop which looks like is in FL. I seriously doubt anybody here on this forum has personal experience building this type of engine based on a LT1 btw. But - we would all love to see your progress so keep us posted please!

11-16-2019, 11:49 AM	#12
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Joey Arrington did the engine build for the Super Duty TA and his shop is in Concord NC. They build race engines and special builds for companies like Trans Am Depot. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

11-16-2019, 12:15 PM	#14
c4racer Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,108	I would also personally sell the factory motor or pull it and store it. It’s worth $6K easily and you won’t use much except the block. Maybe the heads.

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