ZL1 oil 0w/40 ESP Mobil 1 no longer available-? possibly for Oil Pump Fail - Page 10

puppykat33 · 06-09-2020, 09:52 PM

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Mobil...it,386340.html
Here, 12 quarts and oil filter for 104$ + FREE SHIPPING

Flowtie1 · 06-10-2020, 05:25 AM

Thanks Puppykat33

gubel · 06-10-2020, 06:48 AM

George, I had a pump failure and had the European oil in the car!

I suspect that is the case and I am located in Europe. Need to special import the oil in order to get it right.

What are my options?

puppykat33 · 06-10-2020, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Flowtie1

Thanks Puppykat33

Yea man . thats the best price i have found and its free shipping + every 5 oil changes you have enough left over to do a oil change with the extra so win win

SteveV · 06-10-2020, 08:09 AM

I just re-read the title of this thread. And I don't remember noticing the "possible oil pump failure" line.

When I had my oil pump failure and replacement, neither the mechanic that replaced the pump nor the service manager said anything about switching back to 5w30.

So, where is the evidence that the 0w40 esp oil could be the source of the failure? I would have hoped that the dealer would have said something to me about this if this were true...

LT4Greg · 06-10-2020, 08:38 AM

Is the engine still running good and seeing no oil pressure issues Steve? I guess you are good to go with the 0w40 oil if neither one mentioned switching back to 5w30.��

ZX-10R · 06-10-2020, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveV

So, where is the evidence that the 0w40 esp oil could be the source of the failure?

There is none - low information posts.

Nor does "European 0W-40 oil" (i.e. oil that meets Mercedes and various European standards) have anything to do with failure of a GM oil pump.

SteveV · 06-10-2020, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Is the engine still running good and seeing no oil pressure issues Steve? I guess you are good to go with the 0w40 oil if neither one mentioned switching back to 5w30.��

It is absolutely running good. In fact, I drove her to work and back yesterday. Still seeing 40 to 48 psi all the time.

Now, in truth, I had the 0w40 esp oil in it when it failed. The obviously had to drain the oil to pull the pan off. No where in the paperwork do I see what they put back in it. So, I supposed it could be 5w30. But I really do NOT know.

SteveV · 06-10-2020, 09:19 AM

Looking over the invoice again, I see where they put 10 qt of oil in it. I just tried to look up the part number on the "thatgmpartsguy" website. But is just says oil, there is nothing about viscosity there...

Hell Raiser · 06-10-2020, 10:32 AM

Steve that is 5w30 mobil 1

LT4Greg · 06-10-2020, 01:25 PM

As Hell Raiser stated it’s 5w30 so that’s probably what they put in your ZL1 since it’s the recommended oil for your 2018.

george · 06-10-2020, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX-10R

There is none - low information posts.

Nor does "European 0W-40 oil" (i.e. oil that meets Mercedes and various European standards) have anything to do with failure of a GM oil pump.

But "Euro" 0w/40 has increased sulphur and phosphorus (non ESP) which could lead to catalytic issues. I did send in my oil for a Blackstone analysis, which came back fine.

Thank you to everyone for their input.

george · 06-10-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gubel

George, I had a pump failure and had the European oil in the car!

I suspect that is the case and I am located in Europe. Need to special import the oil in order to get it right.

What are my options?

I would definitely get a warranty review and see if the dealer put that oil in your car. It seems Dexos2 0w/40 oil is in Europe. In an earlier post, someone in France found Castrol 0w/40 Dexos 2 at 53Euro for 5 liters. I would look for that. If you are military, I used to get some car stuff shipped to my APO address but you should check with them on base first.. I would also use Amazon (Europe) if you can't find it in stores.

ZX-10R · 06-10-2020, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by george

But "Euro" 0w/40 has increased sulphur and phosphorus (non ESP) which could lead to catalytic issues.

https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/F...PXE-A2A2UV.pdf

0.8% sulphated, typical of dexos which is double the price

06-09-2020, 09:52 PM	#127
puppykat33 Drives: Black 2019 ZL1 M6, Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Georgia Posts: 322	https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Mobil...it,386340.html Here, 12 quarts and oil filter for 104$ + FREE SHIPPING __________________ 2019 Black ZL1, M6, CF Hood and Dash, Nav System, ZL1 Addons rock guards and lift points, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, DD Smoked Marker Lights, Ceramic window tint, Gtechniq 9yr ceramic coating. JL Audio stealth box 12W6, Dyanamat trunk, Dead pedal cover, Soler TB/TC, Green Filter, Carbon-fiber Borla S-Type Last edited by puppykat33; 06-10-2020 at 07:34 AM.

06-10-2020, 08:09 AM	#131
SteveV Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro 6M Red Hot Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,137 View My Garage	I just re-read the title of this thread. And I don't remember noticing the "possible oil pump failure" line. When I had my oil pump failure and replacement, neither the mechanic that replaced the pump nor the service manager said anything about switching back to 5w30. So, where is the evidence that the 0w40 esp oil could be the source of the failure? I would have hoped that the dealer would have said something to me about this if this were true... __________________ People are a lot like slinky's: not very helpful most of the time, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs...

06-10-2020, 08:38 AM	#132
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Is the engine still running good and seeing no oil pressure issues Steve? I guess you are good to go with the 0w40 oil if neither one mentioned switching back to 5w30.�� __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

06-10-2020, 09:19 AM	#135
SteveV Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro 6M Red Hot Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,137 View My Garage	Looking over the invoice again, I see where they put 10 qt of oil in it. I just tried to look up the part number on the "thatgmpartsguy" website. But is just says oil, there is nothing about viscosity there... Attached Images __________________ People are a lot like slinky's: not very helpful most of the time, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs...

06-10-2020, 01:25 PM	#137
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	As Hell Raiser stated it’s 5w30 so that’s probably what they put in your ZL1 since it’s the recommended oil for your 2018. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

06-10-2020, 05:25 AM	#128
Flowtie1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: South florida Posts: 332	Thanks Puppykat33

06-10-2020, 06:48 AM	#129
gubel Drives: ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: US Posts: 21	George, I had a pump failure and had the European oil in the car! I suspect that is the case and I am located in Europe. Need to special import the oil in order to get it right. What are my options?

06-10-2020, 10:32 AM	#136
Hell Raiser To fast is not enough Drives: 2019 ZL1 Camaro & 2020 CT5-V Turbo Join Date: May 2019 Location: NC Posts: 85	Steve that is 5w30 mobil 1

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