[Jbanta1983]

Anyone who has used procharger tune could you provide some feedback on it for me thanks.. I'm just looking for a safe conservative tune

[Joshinator99]

Canned tunes are generally pretty crappy. You leave performance on the table for sure. Find a good tuner and get it dialed in right. Plus, you’ll need a tuner as you add mods anyway, as most supercharger manufacturers will not modify your tune to accommodate mods.

[KingLT1]

Agreed.

[Jbanta1983]

But crappy as far as what? I just want it safe for now

[Hyper SS]

Originally Posted by Jbanta1983

But crappy as far as what? I just want it safe for now

RICH

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Jbanta1983

But crappy as far as what? I just want it safe for now

Rich, low timing, driver demand, torque tables, cam timing, SOI tables, A8 trans tune likely all untouched or not correct. Only stuff that would make the car almost a full second quicker then a canned tune....no big deal. I have seen a couple canned tune P1 cars and honestly they are not any faster then a well sorted bolt-on car running E85. That is no exaggeration.

So my suggestion would be to buy a tuner kit and have somebody like Ted Jenetty, GPI, or EFX tuning remote tune it if you don't have reputable tuner close by. There are some good places out there, just few and far between with Gen 5 engines.

I know the bolt a supercharger on and flash supplied canned tune sounds really good on paper, but it's honestly not that great if you want to maximize the potential of the investment.

[Dysan911]

FWIW, This is just my experience but I paid the extra to include the canned tune on my Procharger kit. The drivability felt like it was either ON or OFF, nothing like I thought it would be. Having not felt very confident about the tune I took it to a local Ford/LS guy who owned a dyno to see what was up. His first pull he shut it down before redline and said he didn't like seeing where the A/F was heading (Lean). I paid him to throw a safer tune on it but this guy was FAR FAR from an experienced Boosted LT1 tuner of the likes we have around here such as Ted Jannetty.

So if you're keeping track, I wasted money on the included canned tune and then paid more out of pocket for the local guy, Only to eventually find my way to Ted and pay a 3rd time to finally have 10000% success and the drivability I was looking for the entire time.

If it's not too late, Save your self the cost and headache and just skip right to a reputable tuner would be my advice. If I had it to do all over again, I know I sure would.

Again this was just my experience. Perhaps some will have no issues with the canned tune but I just wanted to share what I had to go through.

[Kerry]

I found the caned tune on my 19 to be ok. Ran a 11.5 on the street. Was their more yes. Mid timing?yes need some. They helped driveability. no more room on top for timing. Leaner yes pro tune was rich. Thats about it. The mid timing helped but offered nothing for top end or when it was floored. I had some famous tuners here on this board tell me how it was gonna blow my motor its lean so on bla bla bla they wanted big bucks to sell me crap i did not need,to make it safe. Took 169 dollars to tell me that as well. To bad I have built and tuned a few motors in my day as well just not in the car field. So it smelled and I went another way and very happy with the result.
Get an afr gadge PERIOD. That is not an option its a must. Unless you run the caned tune then its probly ok. But seriously GET AN AFR GADGE THAT CONNECTS TO HP TUNERS.

[KingLT1]

There is a lot more involved to gen 5 tuning then timing and afr.

[TJay74]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

There is a lot more involved to gen 5 tuning then timing and afr.

Yep, way more than that for sure.

[Kerry]

No doubt I was just outlineing some of the more ovious things for some one on a beginers level as I thought the op was asking. The canned tune takes care of most of that. I do like the pe to come on a little easier than the canned tune has.

[Jbanta1983]

Nothing wrong with running rich right? Better too Rich than too lean. Not looking to maximize performance, what's most important is keeping the motor safe right now so If their tune is conservative I'm dinbe with theway for now. I did email Ted jannity here got back to ne with 2 pages of instructions for the remote tune. So the hptuner is 300 and how much does he usually charge for the tune? Still unsure of what im gonna do but I guess I'll see how this thing feels with the canned tune and go from there.

[KingLT1]

Rich on Direct Injection is just as bad as lean...maybe even worse up to a point.

[Kerry]

Depends on how rich your talking. 10.0 yes way fat. wash down they say. 11.5 I think thats ok. Ive never really seen any damage from 10.0 Gets that rich or richer it will be close to not fireing correctly and start to miss. 12.5 is perfect thay say on direct and probly 11.8 to 12.0 non direct.
Now on the other hand lean is a killer because it gets enough fuel to keep fireing and build heat and cause deto. 15.0 plus on top could be bad. And again if it gets too lean it will misfire as well but its more likley to do damage lean than rich.
I would say at wide open 13 is a little too lean. 12.5 pretty good 12.0 fine 11.5 ok as well.
Theres a differenc in max power and ok. But its always better to err to the rich side.
I watched an engerning guy do a video saying that max heat is at stoic. Might be sounds reasonable.