[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Sven59

Don't forget to tell them that you think JD Power is a magazine, we all get a laugh out of that.

And Consumer Reports. Even the Google response to are FCA cars reliable is no. Take a random sample of people on the street and have them rank the Big 3 in reliability. I'll be over 75% will rank them the lowest.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 2doorrocket

LOL! My Challenger Hellcat is a pile of shit, not only can it not turn it can't go straight either, 4000 miles, 9 alignments, 3 dealership visits and referrals out to alignment shops, next they're going to replace its steering rack. Man this ZL1 needs to get here soon and actually both FCA and GM are reputable companies and they both make shitty cars, its how FCA treats you versus how GM treats you. You take your GM car in for service you get a rental and they want to fix it. You take your FCA car in, no rental, no nothing, even for Viper customers and half the time the FCA dealerships are so incompetent its incredible. Some of things service managers tell me I'd just like to punch them in the throat

While my 2011 Silverado has never been back to the dealer for any warranty repairs (thankfully it is reliable thus far) one might stop and think about why the Imports have done so well in this country. The answer is simple; Because the GM dealer network treated customers so badly they stopped buying American cars. I'm sure that includes Ford and then Chrysler. That said, since Mary Barra took over the show things have improved. I have two buddies who own the Dodge Challengers, one is an SRT8 and the other is a HC. Both owners are ecstatic with their purchases and the cars are great drivers as well as very comfortable. This said, the HC owner would likely consider the ZL1 IF it delivers as it should in real life.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by 2doorrocket

LOL! My Challenger Hellcat is a pile of shit, not only can it not turn it can't go straight either, 4000 miles, 9 alignments, 3 dealership visits and referrals out to alignment shops, next they're going to replace its steering rack. Man this ZL1 needs to get here soon and actually both FCA and GM are reputable companies and they both make shitty cars, its how FCA treats you versus how GM treats you. You take your GM car in for service you get a rental and they want to fix it. You take your FCA car in, no rental, no nothing, even for Viper customers and half the time the FCA dealerships are so incompetent its incredible. Some of things service managers tell me I'd just like to punch them in the throat

I don't disagree with the dealer statements. I get pretty good service but I'm well known. Friends of mine have not had good service from their Dodge dealers.

Chevy has treated me VERY well and their customer service has certainly been impressive. I got a survey on owning my Camaro and I dinged them for the issues I've had. Within a few days I received a phone call from Chevy asking what they could do to make me happy. That does go a long way in the ownership experience.

[WhyUMad1LE]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

I don't disagree with the dealer statements. I get pretty good service but I'm well known. Friends of mine have not had good service from their Dodge dealers.

Chevy has treated me VERY well and their customer service has certainly been impressive. I got a survey on owning my Camaro and I dinged them for the issues I've had. Within a few days I received a phone call from Chevy asking what they could do to make me happy. That does go a long way in the ownership experience.

Speedy! I remember reading your threads on Yotatech like 10 years ago. Lol

[Speedy1975]

Thanks for reminding me I'm old LOL

[Sven59]

http://www.autoomobile.com/news/2018...maro/40038130/

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Sven59

http://www.autoomobile.com/news/2018...maro/40038130/

Lot of talk and no facts. Plus it will likely be in the sub 500hp range and even heavier than a Hellcat or close to it (thanks to plumbing and AWD). A better GT car for those wanting AWD, but that's it.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Lot of talk and no facts. Plus it will likely be in the sub 500hp range and even heavier than a Hellcat or close to it (thanks to plumbing and AWD). A better GT car for those wanting AWD, but that's it.

More click bait. That picture and rumors have been floating around for 2 years.

[COmaro]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

More click bait. That picture and rumors have been floating around for 2 years.

There are about a dozen "automotive" websites that are actually just people in China and India scraping other websites and posting "news". That is one of them. You can tell by the stilted language.

I mean really autoomobile.com? Two 'o's?

It would be better if it was automoobile.com . Moo.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by COmaro

There are about a dozen "automotive" websites that are actually just people in China and India scraping other websites and posting "news". That is one of them. You can tell by the stilted language.

I mean really autoomobile.com? Two 'o's?

It would be better if it was automoobile.com . Moo.

lol I didn't even notice that but you are right, there's hundreds out there.

[Fred25]

Originally Posted by 2doorrocket

LOL! My Challenger Hellcat is a pile of shit, not only can it not turn it can't go straight either, 4000 miles, 9 alignments, 3 dealership visits and referrals out to alignment shops, next they're going to replace its steering rack. Man this ZL1 needs to get here soon and actually both FCA and GM are reputable companies and they both make shitty cars, its how FCA treats you versus how GM treats you. You take your GM car in for service you get a rental and they want to fix it. You take your FCA car in, no rental, no nothing, even for Viper customers and half the time the FCA dealerships are so incompetent its incredible. Some of things service managers tell me I'd just like to punch them in the throat

Interesting comment about the alignment. I have had my Challanger Hellcat aligned twice and it still hints right. My Camaro has never had any steering issue. On the other hand the Camaro has gone thru a replacement of the radiator fan and torque coverter replaced after 14K miles. 4K on the Hellcat no problems.Is the alignment problem abigger problem ? thought you might know. My Hellcat is way faster than the Z1 auto I wanted. How do folks compare these 2 cars when the ZL1 is not even available ? I expect the ZL1 to handle better especially on the track. My 2SS handles better than the Hellcat. The fun factor and comfort factor for driving goes to the Hellcat.

[NB2017ZL1]

Wonder where the Hellcat is on this list ? Lmfao #hatersgonnahate

[DenverTaco07]

oh this thread again...

don't you know that "real men" only care about what a car can do in the 1/4 mile, it's the "only thing that matters".

sheesh, where have you been??

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by NB2017ZL1

Wonder where the Hellcat is on this list ? Lmfao #hatersgonnahate


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