Cams that drive like stock? - Page 2

KingLT1 · 11-16-2018, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I'm glad someone thinks like me.. After 4 builds with stage 3 and 4 cams I want stock idle/driveability with good power. The Jannetty smooth idle cam or the lingenfelter GT31 w 8:1 fuel lobe is on my list.. I'm over the chop especially in the 6 gen it doesn't seem right to have chop in this car, like it's outta place the car seems to refined and nice to be shaking or loping and difficult to ease over speed bumps or slow take offs. In a 5th gen I welcome it all day especially since it has that muscle car look. I'd like to romp all over ferraris, lambos, and McClarens.. and have them think it's just a stock zl1.

As much as I like cam chop, I agree with you.

BradfordCamaro · 11-16-2018, 02:09 PM

BTR stage 1 here. Nice sound and lope but not crazy
Decent power.

the highlander · 11-17-2018, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I'm glad someone thinks like me.. After 4 builds with stage 3 and 4 cams I want stock idle/driveability with good power. The Jannetty smooth idle cam or the lingenfelter GT31 w 8:1 fuel lobe is on my list.. I'm over the chop especially in the 6 gen it doesn't seem right to have chop in this car, like it's outta place the car seems to refined and nice to be shaking or loping and difficult to ease over speed bumps or slow take offs. In a 5th gen I welcome it all day especially since it has that muscle car look. I'd like to romp all over ferraris, lambos, and McClarens.. and have them think it's just a stock zl1.

GT31 will idle and drive like stock. It will handle boosted power. I would love to see some day what it does on an N/A Setup.

sal11585 · 11-19-2018, 09:50 PM

EDFHOBBIES I couldn't agree more. Highlander is that what you run?

18ss376 · 11-20-2018, 07:35 AM

This is the only one I would ever use, Lingenfelter has been doing this for 45+ years.
https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L210306914.html

biker2k · 11-20-2018, 08:23 AM

I'm sure this has been covered but what is stock cam specs
id love to see a dyno of that gt30 cam I like to know where and what it does to the power..

KingLT1 · 11-20-2018, 08:41 AM

Stock LT1 cam- 200 207 .551 .524 116.5

avalonandl · 11-20-2018, 01:47 PM

I want some chop. The stock cam is a bit lumpy especially cold....

oldman · 11-20-2018, 02:26 PM

I was for a long time going do a drop in cam just to show everyone it could be done in a day. The issues I've run into is that given any reasonable spring the DOD lifters are just iffy at best. Literally every DoD cam vendor has something negative to say about the other vendors, for me, outsider, customer only, I don't think it is a cam / shop / grinder issue. It is that DoD lifters are iffy stock and anymore is asking too much IMO of course.

So I went to pull the heads to change to LS7 lifters..... no worries now.

DatBrotato · 11-20-2018, 03:59 PM

I've heard of more ppl regretting they didn't go bigger vs wishing they went smaller..

I think most get used to the buck of the larger-short lsa-heavy overlap cams. Also any good tuner can tame the car for puttering around town. I have no problems pushing mine through the occasional parking lots & speedbumps

I think the lopey exhaust note is the only real consideration you have to make.

Just my .02

oldman · 11-20-2018, 05:13 PM

with a narrow LSA, one can have a loopy duppy idle and a strong, as in stronger than stock midrange. Keep say 20 degree phaser too, install straight up.

Also the non-DoD cam can for any duration just lift the valves faster / down faster. It would be easy to design say a 212 / 220 114 LSA .600 lift cam the could be completely streetable near stock in pull, but with significant more mid range power and 200 to 400 RPM or so on the top too. There are lots of compromise for DoD that a fast ramp .600 lift street cam does not have to deal with, one is overlap for emissions, two is the ramps for lifting, three is the overall lift.

aai · 11-20-2018, 05:24 PM

We should start a new thread with just cams/vids... post up the cam card or specs. To help potential people on the fence to doing a cam swap. If any, would be a nice change of pace from the endless threads of catback/axleback exhaust sounds connoisseur threads

biker2k · 11-20-2018, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aai

We should start a new thread with just cams/vids... post up the cam card or specs. To help potential people on the fence to doing a cam swap. If any, would be a nice change of pace from the endless threads of catback/axleback exhaust sounds connoisseur threads

agreed
dyno sheets would be even better with that...

MAGAUSA · 11-20-2018, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aai

We should start a new thread with just cams/vids... post up the cam card or specs. To help potential people on the fence to doing a cam swap. If any, would be a nice change of pace from the endless threads of catback/axleback exhaust sounds connoisseur threads

I agree! If I'm gonna blow my warranty, I may as well do it right.

11-16-2018, 02:09 PM	#16
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,012	BTR stage 1 here. Nice sound and lope but not crazy Decent power. __________________

11-19-2018, 09:50 PM	#18
sal11585 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 2ss Nightfall Gray Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: New york Posts: 149	EDFHOBBIES I couldn't agree more. Highlander is that what you run? __________________ ACS front spoiler, rear spoiler, side skirts and rock guards (gloss black). Real carbon fiber dash insert, real carbon fiber gear bezel, GM dark tail lights, Gm black badges(Emblems and ss) Powder-coated gloss black factory 5 spoke split wheels Roto fab Biggulp CAI Full paint correction with cquartz finest ceramic coating Whipple 2.9 ARH Long tube headers with High flow cats 1le sway bars F&R BMR Upper and lower trailing arms Hurst short throw shifter

11-20-2018, 08:41 AM	#21
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	Stock LT1 cam- 200 207 .551 .524 116.5 __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

11-20-2018, 01:47 PM	#22
avalonandl Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL Posts: 2,019	I want some chop. The stock cam is a bit lumpy especially cold.... __________________ 2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles... 2012 Yukon XL Denali w/ 6.2 AWD

11-20-2018, 02:26 PM	#23
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,320	I was for a long time going do a drop in cam just to show everyone it could be done in a day. The issues I've run into is that given any reasonable spring the DOD lifters are just iffy at best. Literally every DoD cam vendor has something negative to say about the other vendors, for me, outsider, customer only, I don't think it is a cam / shop / grinder issue. It is that DoD lifters are iffy stock and anymore is asking too much IMO of course. So I went to pull the heads to change to LS7 lifters..... no worries now. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

11-20-2018, 07:35 AM	#19
18ss376 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 520	This is the only one I would ever use, Lingenfelter has been doing this for 45+ years. https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L210306914.html

11-20-2018, 08:23 AM	#20
biker2k Drives: 2018 2ss 1le Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 474	I'm sure this has been covered but what is stock cam specs id love to see a dyno of that gt30 cam I like to know where and what it does to the power..

11-20-2018, 03:59 PM	#24
DatBrotato Drives: '18 SS 1LE M6 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: TX Posts: 117	I've heard of more ppl regretting they didn't go bigger vs wishing they went smaller.. I think most get used to the buck of the larger-short lsa-heavy overlap cams. Also any good tuner can tame the car for puttering around town. I have no problems pushing mine through the occasional parking lots & speedbumps I think the lopey exhaust note is the only real consideration you have to make. Just my .02 __________________ '18 1SS 1LE M6 NGM\|\| 11.5:1 Diamond Pistons \|\| Callie's H-beams \|\| Vengeance III Cam Kit \|\| Built Heads \|\| TSP LTs 1 7/8"(C-Coated) \|\| MSD IM \|\| DSX E85 \|\| Rotofab \|\| BMR Springs \|\| 576/472 @7000rpm

11-20-2018, 05:13 PM	#25
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,320	with a narrow LSA, one can have a loopy duppy idle and a strong, as in stronger than stock midrange. Keep say 20 degree phaser too, install straight up. Also the non-DoD cam can for any duration just lift the valves faster / down faster. It would be easy to design say a 212 / 220 114 LSA .600 lift cam the could be completely streetable near stock in pull, but with significant more mid range power and 200 to 400 RPM or so on the top too. There are lots of compromise for DoD that a fast ramp .600 lift street cam does not have to deal with, one is overlap for emissions, two is the ramps for lifting, three is the overall lift. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

11-20-2018, 05:24 PM	#26
aai Drives: '17 SS/1LE/PDR Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: SOMD Posts: 222	We should start a new thread with just cams/vids... post up the cam card or specs. To help potential people on the fence to doing a cam swap. If any, would be a nice change of pace from the endless threads of catback/axleback exhaust sounds connoisseur threads __________________ PRAY ported MSD/TB : ROTOFAB/dry : DSX flex fuel : HPA Stage 3 : ARH catted long system/oem NPP : RSR harness bar : RSD : FSO1 : MPS4S 305F/325R

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