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Old 02-09-2014, 09:14 AM   #1359
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I'm having a hard time figuring out how it would be worth it either way. I guess the bean counters think otherwise.
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:17 AM   #1360
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First ELR commercial.
Probably one of the best GM commercials in a long time.
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:50 AM   #1361
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Okay, new question for everyone.

After a lot of research, I'm probably going with a Flowmaster 40 series muffler for my Envoy. I'm also planning on cutting off the resonator at the back because in all honesty, it looks like the car has a trash can hanging off the back.

The thing is, everyone says without something back there, it'll sound like bees are raping your eardrums inside the car. So what I've seen a lot of folks do is simply bend the exhaust off to the side or putting an S-bend in the pipe up and then down and then out back, and supposedly that curbs the drone.

Does that sound like a legit fix?
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:26 PM   #1362
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http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/09/n...uze-spy-shots/

2016 Cruze spied again.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:50 PM   #1363
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Looks way too much like the Ford design language.



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Old 02-09-2014, 07:45 PM   #1364
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I the back end looks cool, and the interior looks super nice, but the profile, and front end of the new Cruze are just not doing anything for me at all. As I said before, the new profile looks like your standard cookie cutter economy car side profile. For me, I think its the low handing wheel wells that just make it look like chubby from the side. The current gen has more of a real midsize sedan side profile that I really like:



I hope when the camo comes off that changes, but I don't see how. We can basically see every line this car has. Holding out on faith.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:38 PM   #1365
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It's hard to tell right now with all the camo, but I see a very Impala-ish design cue. Not just the taillights.
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:13 PM   #1366
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Looks way too much like the Ford design language.



I see some sonic in the front, but not as cartoonish. A lot of manufacturers utilize an upper and lower grill layout and there are only so many ways you can format a sedan. If it didn't "look like a Ford," it may end up like an Audi, or Toyota (please God no!)
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:19 PM   #1367
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I see some sonic in the front, but not as cartoonish. A lot of manufacturers utilize an upper and lower grill layout and there are only so many ways you can format a sedan. If it didn't "look like a Ford," it may end up like an Audi, or Toyota (please God no!)
I just hope it doesn't have Honda Prelude tail lights. We don't need 100 threads on that!
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:54 PM   #1368
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I think the front will turn out much more Tru140S than Sonic.
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:32 AM   #1369
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Not exactly GM related but Toyota has just announced they're pulling manufacturing out of Australia as well. Australian automobile manufacturing is dead after 2016.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:45 AM   #1370
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Okay, new question for everyone.

After a lot of research, I'm probably going with a Flowmaster 40 series muffler for my Envoy. I'm also planning on cutting off the resonator at the back because in all honesty, it looks like the car has a trash can hanging off the back.

The thing is, everyone says without something back there, it'll sound like bees are raping your eardrums inside the car. So what I've seen a lot of folks do is simply bend the exhaust off to the side or putting an S-bend in the pipe up and then down and then out back, and supposedly that curbs the drone.

Does that sound like a legit fix?
Is your Envoy a V8? Either way I would leave the resonator, even if it is ugly. Just go with a smaller primary muffler. I have the magnaflow 11229 and it is nice, but not too loud, and no drone at all.

http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96950

I can't say for sure how it would sound on a V6 though.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:48 AM   #1371
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It's an inline 6.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:23 AM   #1372
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Okay, new question for everyone.

After a lot of research, I'm probably going with a Flowmaster 40 series muffler for my Envoy. I'm also planning on cutting off the resonator at the back because in all honesty, it looks like the car has a trash can hanging off the back.

The thing is, everyone says without something back there, it'll sound like bees are raping your eardrums inside the car. So what I've seen a lot of folks do is simply bend the exhaust off to the side or putting an S-bend in the pipe up and then down and then out back, and supposedly that curbs the drone.

Does that sound like a legit fix?
Had a friend of mine do this method with his I6 TB, and it works to an extent, but pretty much didnt help a ton (still drones pretty bad on the highway). I would suggest leaving the resonator as well, even though it looks like poo. Flowmaster 40 series should give you the sound your looking for without being too drony. Hope this helps
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