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Old 12-04-2020, 09:00 AM   #15
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If you're going to daily it a lot then just get the ZL1. The ZLE wing is an option for the ZL1, and the bumper is easily added on for less than a couple grand.
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Old 12-04-2020, 02:39 PM   #16
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If you go with the ZLE, replace the tires with PS4s and save the stock tires for the track. The stock tires wear quickly, pick up every loose stone on the road and are dangerous in the rain or cold. You won’t notice much difference in handling with the PS4s on the street and the ride is noticeably improved.
Or put on the regular F1 SC3 tires. They are less of a compromise on the performance front compared to the PS4's. The PS4's also have a softer sidewall, so you will lose some initial turn-in feel.

They are made in the stock ZLE sizes now
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Old 12-04-2020, 02:40 PM   #17
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The ride between a ZL1 and a ZL1 1LE is pretty different. The ZL1 has magnetic dampers that, when adjusted to tour by the push of a button, does a decent job at giving a smooth ride over bumps.

The ZL1 1LE has fixed suspension that you can adjust, manually, but it's a LOT harsher even when set to its softest setting. You'll feel every bump in the road even if you think the road it's smooth.
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The ride quality/damping of NOT adjustable on the ZLE. The alignment settings and ride height are adjustable, but the damping is NOT.
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Old 12-04-2020, 03:52 PM   #18
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FALSE!!!

The ride quality/damping of NOT adjustable on the ZLE. The alignment settings and ride height are adjustable, but the damping is NOT.
Meaning the ZLE rider is harsher all the time, not just dependent on setting. Doesn’t bother some people, does bother others. Follow your own preferences for ride quality if buying for street use.
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Old 12-04-2020, 04:05 PM   #19
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The ZLE isnt harsh but it is firm and will transmit more feel from the road. However it is more "bouncy" at normal speeds. You feel like you're in constant motion unless the pavement is smooth. If its a weekend/fun car get the ZLE. If its a road trip/daily car get the ZL1.
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Old 12-04-2020, 05:17 PM   #20
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I traded a 2017 2SS for a 2019 ZLE 1LE. Mine is not a DD. The ride is stiff but not bad at all. You will feel some bumps. Most of the roads in this area are in good shape, so I love driving mine. I am very happy with my purchase.
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:00 PM   #21
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From the way you described how you would be using the car, just get the ‘regular’ ZL1, w/out the 1LE package. There really isn’t any reason to get the 1LE just for street use. The ride harshness is so subjective, it’s hard to say what you would think of it. I don’t think it’s ‘that’ harsh.. but then again, it’s certainly not Cadillac plush. It’ll throw you around inside the car if the road isn’t great. Especially at higher speeds.
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:29 PM   #22
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I have had both ZL1 and the 1LE (current car) and the ZL1 is what I would want if I was worried about the ride quality.

I have hit my head on the roof (6'2) in the 1LE commute to work where I didn't have that same issue in the ZL1 when encountering a pretty good dip on the freeway (405)
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:38 PM   #23
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I have the 1LE and have had the opportunity to drive the ZL1. big difference in the ride. If you are only doing occasional track days go with ZL1. If you planned to become a track rat - go with the 1LE. I went with 1LE as I do about 15 weekends a year.
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:58 PM   #24
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I have had both ZL1 and the 1LE (current car) and the ZL1 is what I would want if I was worried about the ride quality.

I have hit my head on the roof (6'2) in the 1LE commute to work where I didn't have that same issue in the ZL1 when encountering a pretty good dip on the freeway (405)


I have had both as well and if I have a cup of coffee on my commute in the ZLE my hand better be resting over the top to cover the hole in the lid.

Road conditions where you live make a big difference and we have pretty good roads in my area, but if I didn't have this car mainly for track I would get the regular ZL1.
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Old 12-04-2020, 08:28 PM   #25
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I too have had both (have ZLE now). You can read more here.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=582765
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Old 12-04-2020, 10:49 PM   #26
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With the notes thrown out by the op (older, not tracking, softer ride) it's a no brainer. ZL1.
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Old 12-05-2020, 01:03 AM   #27
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I have owned a ZL1 and a ZLE. In my experience of owning both, I wouldn't spend the extra money for the ZLE unless you will track it regularly. The biggest downside to the ZLE, in my opinion, is the resale value. The 1le package doesn't seem to add anything to the value of these cars when you sell them, so unless you are going to use the ZLE for what it was designed for, you are better off taking that extra money and investing it in engine mods.
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Old 12-18-2020, 02:24 PM   #28
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This is great discussion. Does the ZL1 1LE have the snow/wet mode? I'm deciding on an upgrade from my '17 SS 1LE. I live in Iowa and run snow tires four months of the year. I'm hoping the 18" snow tires would transfer. The ZL1 1LE is attractive to me at ~12 track days a year.
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