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They also take the destination charge off the ad price which is a part of the actual sticker price. So no matter what you see advertised, it's $995 more, no matter what incentive you may qualify. Quote:
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05-31-2018, 07:10 PM | #2228 |
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They also like to include discounts that not everyone qualify for which I really don't like it when they do that. When you can't get a $2,000 discount because you drive the same vehicle of the one you are buying.
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05-31-2018, 07:49 PM | #2229 |
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I think this started out as info for the 2019 refresh, on that topic I think it looks ok overall. I don't love the rear lights, but until I see one in person, I cant tell 100%. If I did not have my 2017 and I wanted a 2 door sports car, I would buy that before a Mustang any day of the week. Hope they come out with some new cool surprise colors. Flaps
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05-31-2018, 08:05 PM | #2230 |
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No it’s because it’s fake news. That’s how fake news goes it started off with 55k ZL1’s everywhere no problem. Then when pressed for real facts , oops maybe it was only one at that price , then sorry there’s none at that price. Fake news.
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Yeah that sucks too. I talked to a friend of mine who is in car sales and asked him how they are able to do that and not get in trouble. He said because somewhere out there is someone who could possibly meet all the criteria for the "stackable" incentives. |
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06-01-2018, 08:23 AM | #2232 | |
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+1 Good way to put it! |
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06-01-2018, 09:01 AM | #2233 | |
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06-01-2018, 09:08 AM | #2234 |
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You would be surprised how stupid some people are lol, but either way it gets people in the showroom and that gives the dealer a chance at a sale.
Say you are in need of a car, and you have two chevy dealerships near you. One has super low advertised prices, the other does not. If you weren't a savy car buyer which one would you go to first? |
06-01-2018, 10:34 AM | #2235 |
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Not all internet sales are BS, its just the max discounts and rebates available if you happen fit into every possible category that makes you eligible for every discount.
Case in point. In April of this year, the wife and I bought a 2018 GMC Terrain SLT with an MSRP of just over 38 grand 26,900 out the door (not including title/tax). It was b/c we qualified for most all of the rebates and some dealers were throwing cash on the hood. But in the end...yes, most of the time you will not get that price you see online. Now if a dealer is advertising savings that can't actually be combined together, that's just plain shady.
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06-01-2018, 11:10 AM | #2236 | |
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"Disclaimer *ALL NEW CAR PRICES INCLUDE APPLICABLE MANUFACTURER REBATES AND INCENTIVES. DOES NOT INCLUDE TAX, TITLE, LICENSE OR DOC FEE. " On a car I was looking at a few months ago (which is still on their lot) . Its a 17, the current incentives is 4K cash back OR 1k cash back and 0APR for 72. Can't get both but this dealer has both lumped in their "low price" |
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06-01-2018, 11:41 AM | #2237 |
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This sort of all goes back to how you want negotiate or haggle.
Me? I bring my out the door price in writing to the dealer, explicitly including tax, all fees, etc. and tell them that's my offer. I tell them you can fanagle the rebates, discounts, whatever you want and move all the numbers around all you want, I don't care. But that's the price I'll pay. I don't care what discounts I'm eligible for or not, I just offer my out the door price. Which is usually a low ball and I work up from there to where I have already made my mind up what I will pay for the car. |
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Unbelievably, the great majority of car shoppers are easily brought to the monthly payment. This is how people pay for the car, and how most people budget their lives, on the monthly budget. Once they have them on payment, it's easy to sell the car at MSRP. There are so many moving parts in the deal, and by the time you get them in financing they are so ready to get out of there, folks will sign anything and everything put in front of them.
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The FTC (Federal Trade Commission) goes after these dealers and fines them. You can file a complaint ftc.gov/complaint On the state level, here are a few: New York: https://ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds/de...to-advertising California: California Business and Professions Code § 17200: Defines unfair competition as, among other things, any unfair, deceptive, untrue or misleading advertising. California Business and Professions Code § 17500: Prohibits false and misleading advertising. California Civil Code § 1770: Lists a number of deceptive acts that are deemed to be unlawful, including, but not limited to, advertising goods or services with the intent not to sell them as advertised, and knowingly making untrue or misleading statements in advertisements. Possible Penalties Some of the penalties that fraudulent or deceptive advertisers may suffer in California include: Injunction (California Business and Professions Code § 1753) Up to $2,500 for each violation of the law against deceptive advertising (California Business and Professions Code § 17500); Up to six months in jail for each violation of the law against deceptive advertising (California Business and Professions Code § 17500). Whether it is on a state level or a Federal level, it is illegal to advertise a sale without the intention of selling it for that price. So bait & switch tactics are punishable by law. Now, it is left to the consumer to have a paper trail. From the ad that was their call to action, to a dealer invoice citing otherwise. My new purchase, I got for $2K less than advertised. Now I wish their was a law to stop California for stealing $$$ by taxing at the MSRP as opposed to the actual price negotiated. This is criminal.
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