Mamo Vs Katech TB

Redline_2ss · 03-13-2020, 07:58 PM

Hey guys. Going to be buying a ported TB soon just not sure who to go with. I have seen lots of great stuff but a close friend is recommending Katech? Is there a big difference between them?

Robby23 · 03-13-2020, 11:07 PM

I am sure Katech is nice I know there are people that run it and I haven't heard anything bad about it. Lot of people go to Brett with Pray Porting, that is who I went through. Something else to think about I have seen dyno graphs on the forums here you would have to search it but the 95MM was better then the 103MM on different set ups.

yellowzl1x · 03-13-2020, 11:38 PM

Heard tons of good reviews about Mamo's TBs, I my self will be able to give you a review in a few days with video evidence.

My friends '18 SS had gained 12 WHP/9 WTQ from the install w/o a tune and noticed INSANELY better throttle lag

OVRKLL · 03-14-2020, 10:16 AM

I had a Mamo TB, but had some surging issues. Unfortunately I had a hip surgery right after installing it, so I did not drive it much.
By the time I was driving it my warranty expired (30 days) and I was told I could not return for a full refund, but I could buy another one at a discount.

I decided to try Soler and haven't looked back since!
Very satisfied with the Soler and I had a few issues at first, but Soler's customer service is unbeatable.
They paid for shipping to return the TB, and sent another one to use on their dime.
Just another option to look at.

I haven't tried Katech, but I hear a lot of good things about them as well.

Bohanan23 · 03-14-2020, 10:57 AM

splitting hairs. both are fine

WhitesnakeSS · 03-14-2020, 03:05 PM

Had great success from Tony Mamos ported 87mm Tb. He has a V2 out now that he says has some improvements to the earlier V1.
If it is at the minimal any better than the V1 you wont be dissatisfied that's for sure.

JROC · 03-14-2020, 03:28 PM

My opinion is neither.

An 87MM TB is still a 87MM TB ported or otherwise. IMO to make messing with the TB worthwhile you need to upgrade the manifold (if necessary to run a larger TB) and go with a larger diameter TB. If a 102 setup is worthwhile on a H/C LS1 then why is a much more efficient GEN5 LT1 worth staying with a 87MM TB if you're looking to mod that area for more performance?

I'm not saying there's no throttle response amd maybe a little HP to be gained with a ported LT1 TB, but IMO these motors should be able to benefit much more from a 4" + TB. IDK maybe people just don't want to have to deal with a tune, or maybe people think the 87MM TB is capable of feeding the motor all the air it can use with an OEM cam, and air intakes available for these cars.

I've not messed with a ported LT1 TB, but I've used them on 3 other cars, and the difference between a stock TB and a ported OEM TB is minimal in my experience.

Will a factory LT1 manifold allow the use of a larger TB? Remember that company that would take LS6 manifolds and mount the LS2 inlet to them to get a more efficient LS6 manifold that could be used with a 90MM TB?

oldman · 03-14-2020, 03:46 PM

87mm bore stays the same but the throttle shaft is cut down and the entryway is heavily tapered. Since the throttle shaft is right smack in the middle of the air stream, there is a pretty good gain inflow and there is less turbulence. I agree coupling this with a ported intake is like peanut butter and jelly. I have both a Katech and a home ported job, a home ported intake manifold, I think it was well worth it. My car was an absolute beast FBO and E85. In fact probably the most fun setup was FBO and E85 with the M6.

Redline_2ss · 03-18-2020, 07:35 PM

anyone have any posts showing TB gains?

Robby23 · 03-19-2020, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redline_2ss

anyone have any posts showing TB gains?

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566553

CamaroVille · 03-19-2020, 11:30 AM

I have a Soler ported TB and really like it. I was not looking for HP gains at all. The throttle response is what I was looking to improve and the Soler TB made the car drive much better. It's an M6 and I have been driving a manual for years and even after 5 months of driving my 2018, I would still stall it on occasion. The new Soler TB gave me the throttle response that I wanted. I then added the Soler Throttle Controller. Still don't have more than 10 miles on that, but so far I like it and for $75, you can't go wrong.

Also, Mike at Soler Engineering customer service is fantastic. Could not be any better in my case.

Brudda*Termite · 03-19-2020, 10:34 PM

I agree with mating up a big ported throttle body with a bigger manifold. I had a Soler LT1 ported unit and it gave me great throttle response but when I got an Atomic AirForce manifold, got an LT5 Soler unit to go with it and that's when I really felt a power difference. Soler is awesome for sure from my experience...

Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC · 03-20-2020, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redline_2ss

anyone have any posts showing TB gains?

These are for our product for the LT1 Automatic. Every single one of our products will get one of these.

OB0001 · 03-21-2020, 06:39 AM

Thanks Mike for the info, received my Soler Engineering TB very simple install w/ throttle controller

still in set up mode great customer service and fast shipping.

03-13-2020, 07:58 PM	#1
Redline_2ss Drives: 2018 camaro 2ss Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Riverside CA Posts: 93	Mamo Vs Katech TB Hey guys. Going to be buying a ported TB soon just not sure who to go with. I have seen lots of great stuff but a close friend is recommending Katech? Is there a big difference between them?

03-13-2020, 11:38 PM	#3
yellowzl1x Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Austin Posts: 13	Heard tons of good reviews about Mamo's TBs, I my self will be able to give you a review in a few days with video evidence. My friends '18 SS had gained 12 WHP/9 WTQ from the install w/o a tune and noticed INSANELY better throttle lag __________________ '18 ZL1 / Pulley, Roto-fab, Corsa Cat-back, Tune. 620 WHP/658 TQ I oddly play Fortnite for a living. Instagram : yelo

03-14-2020, 10:16 AM	#4
OVRKLL Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE...makes me go YeeeHaw! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 577	I had a Mamo TB, but had some surging issues. Unfortunately I had a hip surgery right after installing it, so I did not drive it much. By the time I was driving it my warranty expired (30 days) and I was told I could not return for a full refund, but I could buy another one at a discount. I decided to try Soler and haven't looked back since! Very satisfied with the Soler and I had a few issues at first, but Soler's customer service is unbeatable. They paid for shipping to return the TB, and sent another one to use on their dime. Just another option to look at. I haven't tried Katech, but I hear a lot of good things about them as well. __________________ The Thrill isn't around the corner, the Thrill is the corner! So don't hesitate, just brake late!

03-14-2020, 03:46 PM	#8
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	87mm bore stays the same but the throttle shaft is cut down and the entryway is heavily tapered. Since the throttle shaft is right smack in the middle of the air stream, there is a pretty good gain inflow and there is less turbulence. I agree coupling this with a ported intake is like peanut butter and jelly. I have both a Katech and a home ported job, a home ported intake manifold, I think it was well worth it. My car was an absolute beast FBO and E85. In fact probably the most fun setup was FBO and E85 with the M6. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

03-19-2020, 11:30 AM	#11
CamaroVille Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 65	I have a Soler ported TB and really like it. I was not looking for HP gains at all. The throttle response is what I was looking to improve and the Soler TB made the car drive much better. It's an M6 and I have been driving a manual for years and even after 5 months of driving my 2018, I would still stall it on occasion. The new Soler TB gave me the throttle response that I wanted. I then added the Soler Throttle Controller. Still don't have more than 10 miles on that, but so far I like it and for $75, you can't go wrong. Also, Mike at Soler Engineering customer service is fantastic. Could not be any better in my case. __________________ Rick 2018 Camaro 2SS M6 NPP HBM w/Black Metallic Rally Stripes Built 6/21/18 -- Purchased 7/28/18

03-13-2020, 11:07 PM	#2
Robby23 Drives: 2018 1SS M6 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 74	I am sure Katech is nice I know there are people that run it and I haven't heard anything bad about it. Lot of people go to Brett with Pray Porting, that is who I went through. Something else to think about I have seen dyno graphs on the forums here you would have to search it but the 95MM was better then the 103MM on different set ups.

03-14-2020, 10:57 AM	#5
Bohanan23 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Moore, OK Posts: 113 View My Garage	splitting hairs. both are fine

03-14-2020, 03:05 PM	#6
WhitesnakeSS Drives: 2018 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2019 Location: Mississippi Posts: 83	Had great success from Tony Mamos ported 87mm Tb. He has a V2 out now that he says has some improvements to the earlier V1. If it is at the minimal any better than the V1 you wont be dissatisfied that's for sure.

03-14-2020, 03:28 PM	#7
JROC Account Suspended Drives: 19 Camaro SS 1LE, 03 Ford Lightning Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: South Carolina Posts: 334	My opinion is neither. An 87MM TB is still a 87MM TB ported or otherwise. IMO to make messing with the TB worthwhile you need to upgrade the manifold (if necessary to run a larger TB) and go with a larger diameter TB. If a 102 setup is worthwhile on a H/C LS1 then why is a much more efficient GEN5 LT1 worth staying with a 87MM TB if you're looking to mod that area for more performance? I'm not saying there's no throttle response amd maybe a little HP to be gained with a ported LT1 TB, but IMO these motors should be able to benefit much more from a 4" + TB. IDK maybe people just don't want to have to deal with a tune, or maybe people think the 87MM TB is capable of feeding the motor all the air it can use with an OEM cam, and air intakes available for these cars. I've not messed with a ported LT1 TB, but I've used them on 3 other cars, and the difference between a stock TB and a ported OEM TB is minimal in my experience. Will a factory LT1 manifold allow the use of a larger TB? Remember that company that would take LS6 manifolds and mount the LS2 inlet to them to get a more efficient LS6 manifold that could be used with a 90MM TB?

03-18-2020, 07:35 PM	#9
Redline_2ss Drives: 2018 camaro 2ss Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Riverside CA Posts: 93	anyone have any posts showing TB gains?

03-19-2020, 10:34 PM	#12
Brudda*Termite Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Lakeland, Florida Posts: 416	I agree with mating up a big ported throttle body with a bigger manifold. I had a Soler LT1 ported unit and it gave me great throttle response but when I got an Atomic AirForce manifold, got an LT5 Soler unit to go with it and that's when I really felt a power difference. Soler is awesome for sure from my experience... __________________ Gary 2017 2SS A8 White, Bolt-Ons, Prayed Upon

03-21-2020, 06:39 AM	#14
OB0001 2018 SS A8 11.85@117.06 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS A8 "Dark Knight" Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 212	Thanks Mike for the info, received my Soler Engineering TB very simple install w/ throttle controller still in set up mode great customer service and fast shipping.

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