Visibility issue improved? - Page 6

VF-22 · 10-09-2015, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

Think you mean '18 if you are referring to the Automotive News story. 10 speed will probably be available for the Camaro too since it is a co-developed trans.

No I mean MY '17. I don't believe the Auto News story. Refresh will be in '17 to counter the '16 Camaro release. Maybe '18 will have some engine bump to 5.2 or something.

There is no reason for Ford to have a test mule out on the road with the camo/lighting rigging it has if something isn't coming next fall. If they were just testing lighting changes and fascia, you could do that internally/on site. So they are running something new mechanical wise that requires road testing/time.

If you don't know of what mule I'm talking about, this is the picture
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33606

Most know that Ford probably held a few things back to counter the '16 Camaro and I don't see Ford sitting around till fall of 2017 to offer upgrades..that's a LONG time to let Chevy have a new car above the Mustang in HP, transmission, design changes, etc. Ford does more incremental upgrades where Chevy seems to just put most major changes in the new model.

I can't forsee Chevy using the 10 speed in the Camaro till their own mid-cycle refresh probably in 2018/19.

VF-22 · 10-09-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IOMike

This pics really highlight how much better the Camaro looks. Wow.

The more I see the Camaro, the more I'm liking it over the S550. It just looks more mean/aggressive and has a much more angular look. I just hate the spoilers.

I do think the 2LT has the better front. Don't like how the bottom DRLs are horizontal...takes away from the eyelashes.

Number 3 · 10-09-2015, 05:37 PM

You can have performance, beauty and visibility if visibility is a priority. But if you emphasize styling and your theme includes slammed roofs and raised belt lines resulting in high trunks (which you can see the difference in the Camaro v. Mustang PICS) you get what you get.

DiGiam · 10-09-2015, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EE7

I think all of the complaining about poor visibility is blown way out of proportion. When I got my camaro it took a few days to adjust and there was no problem after that. Adjust your mirrors properly and as said above visibility problems become a non-issue.

+1. I was a long time mustang driver and didn't like the 15 stang and decided on the camaro. Every time I read something it said visibility was horrible. After driving it for 1 day it was a non issue. Way overblown

Number 3 · 10-09-2015, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DiGiam

+1. I was a long time mustang driver and didn't like the 15 stang and decided on the camaro. Every time I read something it said visibility was horrible. After driving it for 1 day it was a non issue. Way overblown

Sorry, it's not overblown. It's measuravpbly baaaaaaad. You've just accepted it. That just means you are ok with the trade off. That is a long way from it being good or even tolerable for those that expect it all.

Whis · 10-09-2015, 08:23 PM

This thread is just triple-reenforcing what I was worried about

I guess I find out tomorrow how big of a deal it is with the 5th gen test drive

LesserO2Evils · 10-09-2015, 08:36 PM

Just dont let it eat at you. Ive only driven 3 5th Gens. Yes, I could see where the visibility complaints came from. Was I nervous, uncomfortable, or otherwise in fear of driving them BECAUSE of said visibility issues? Absolutely not. The issues were more of an afterthought, that frankly, I may not had even had a conscious realization of had it not been for all the fear-mongering. May help that I have a CDL, so I know how to use my mirrors and Ive owned a few Corvettes. Like anything, you can and will adapt.

laborsmith · 10-09-2015, 08:40 PM

I wonder what a person driving a Lamborghini Countach feels about visibility, especially when backing up.

Laborsmith

SuperSound · 10-09-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by laborsmith

I wonder what a person driving a Lamborghini Countach feels about visibility, especially when backing up.

Laborsmith

They probably wouldn't know since they always park valet. Now maybe we should ask some valet drivers lol.

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Whis · 10-09-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LesserO2Evils

Just dont let it eat at you. Ive only driven 3 5th Gens. Yes, I could see where the visibility complaints came from. Was I nervous, uncomfortable, or otherwise in fear of driving them BECAUSE of said visibility issues? Absolutely not. The issues were more of an afterthought, that frankly, I may not had even had a conscious realization of had it not been for all the fear-mongering. May help that I have a CDL, so I know how to use my mirrors and Ive owned a few Corvettes. Like anything, you can and will adapt.

I'm coming from a 15 year old chevy coupe cavalier. no "power" anything except steering. When I started looking for new cars I test drove a fusion and felt like I was in a damn space ship. Visibility in cars is way, way down from what it was before and it honestly did make me nervous

However I hope, and think, I can get used to it.

Whis · 10-09-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

They probably wouldn't know since they always park valet. Now maybe we should ask some valet drivers lol.

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90503 · 10-09-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Sorry, it's not overblown. It's measuravpbly baaaaaaad. You've just accepted it. That just means you are ok with the trade off. That is a long way from it being good or even tolerable for those that expect it all.

Thank you, Dr. Killjoy. WTF is your problem? It's your cheese-ball opinion about the visibility and those who don't have an "issue" with it. If you don't like the design of the Camaro and the visibility it offers, move on....

Your opinions about how others mistakenly only tolerate and reluctantly accept the car's visibility issue is pathetic and childish.

laborsmith · 10-09-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

They probably wouldn't know since they always park valet. Now maybe we should ask some valet drivers lol.

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jp23rockstar · 10-09-2015, 09:21 PM

I've driven a 5th gen, honestly it does feel a little weird in finding your surroundings. But before I did anything I properly adjusted my seat then my mirrors so I have them pointing out. I honestly didn't have any problems driving the car. I didn't back the car up, but as far as forward visibility and side visibility there were no issues.

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LesserO2Evils GM repeat offender... Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Grandview, Texas Posts: 1,474	Just dont let it eat at you. Ive only driven 3 5th Gens. Yes, I could see where the visibility complaints came from. Was I nervous, uncomfortable, or otherwise in fear of driving them BECAUSE of said visibility issues? Absolutely not. The issues were more of an afterthought, that frankly, I may not had even had a conscious realization of had it not been for all the fear-mongering. May help that I have a CDL, so I know how to use my mirrors and Ive owned a few Corvettes. Like anything, you can and will adapt. __________________ '16 2SS, Summit White. A8. MRC. NPP. Ordered:09/03/15. Received 12/22/15 INCOMING: ‘22 ZL1, Satin Steel. A10. PDR. Ordered: 03/02/22.

10-09-2015, 08:23 PM	#76
Whis Drives: 2016 2SS Hyper Blue Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Kansas, soon! Posts: 995	This thread is just triple-reenforcing what I was worried about I guess I find out tomorrow how big of a deal it is with the 5th gen test drive

10-09-2015, 08:40 PM	#78
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	I wonder what a person driving a Lamborghini Countach feels about visibility, especially when backing up. Laborsmith

10-09-2015, 09:21 PM	#84
jp23rockstar Drives: None Join Date: May 2012 Location: RI Posts: 255	I've driven a 5th gen, honestly it does feel a little weird in finding your surroundings. But before I did anything I properly adjusted my seat then my mirrors so I have them pointing out. I honestly didn't have any problems driving the car. I didn't back the car up, but as far as forward visibility and side visibility there were no issues.

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