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Old 05-14-2020, 05:15 PM   #15
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I think the black soot on the tailpipes is unavoidable, all these motors (especially boosted) run pig rich at wide open throttle to keep combustion chamber temps in check, which is the primary culprit.
Concur. I’ve had the E2-X on my ZL1 for over 12K miles and haven’t seen a big difference with soot before/after.

“I think” the quality of the gas you run (i.e. Chevron over “cheaper” gas) MAY have an impact but I’m not convinced of that either. The more gas you give her the more soot it’s going to produce.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:21 PM   #16
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Here are a few pictures. We should have the video up in the next few days. Picture of completed install and the new bracket to mount up front. That leaves room for a auxiliary coolant tank on driverside if desired.


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Cheers!
I see you used the high flow one way valves, very nice!!!
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:30 PM   #17
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I believe a single port will work on an LT4 but the dual port is much better. Why?, Because if the manifold is the only source of vacuum in a FI engine, then when manifold pressure exceeds ambient pressure due to the increased output of the SC or turbo, there is then no more vacuum and the removal of the dirty air stops until rpm is reduced creating vacuum once again. If you have a dual port system, the intake becomes the secondary source of vacuum during higher rpm ops. A dual port system ensures sufficient vacuum to the CC from idle to redline and everything in between. In a normally aspirated engine, vacuum is available all the from idle to WOT though at ever decreasing inches of Hg. Also, the check valves prevent back-pressure and are a very necessary component in a FI engine. I’m not sure if one is used in a single port system though it couldn’t hurt especially if there’s any back-firing happening.

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I don’t know when the video will be available, if I hear anything, I’ll let everyone know.
Actually the dual port is best to be used in all systems. It does not matter if your engine is forced induction or not, at WOT there is very little vacuum behind the throttle plates of an FI, turbo, regular fuel injection, or even a carburetor. They operate the same. All engines are just air pumps very simply, the only difference is the FI engine will have more cylinder pressure at WOT as the blower is cramming in more air which will result in more blow by.

The dual port system is the way to go for sure.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:46 PM   #18
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That is great elite. I cant put your CC on the back right, because I have my SC reservoir mounted there. When are those front brackets going to be available?
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:43 PM   #19
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You probably drove the car easy though.

I think the black soot on the tailpipes is unavoidable, all these motors (especially boosted) run pig rich at wide open throttle to keep combustion chamber temps in check, which is the primary culprit - my SS did it too - and my FD RX-7, well, let's not go there haha
Hi ZX,

Absolutely agree, the black tailpipe soot is unavoidable. With a good CC however, the time until cleaning may be extended. Time will tell...

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Old 05-15-2020, 12:35 AM   #20
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Name and number of the shop that did your work? Thanks
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:30 AM   #21
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Why would it work better in the front than on the side?
Does the temp have so much effect on suction?
Or vapor to liquid effect are poor inside the can when it’s hot?

Mine is on the side and it works fine...

1 inch in a cup after 3000 miles,
1 inch in a cup after 60 min of track
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:42 AM   #22
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For the Gen 6, the dual valve is the system you will want. Should come with everything needed and the ZL1 modified "L" bracket for front mount can be specified.


Thanks for the kind words Chris. There is a good deal of science that this all involves and is far to often it is over simplified. This system retains a closed emission compliant system (We have started the CARB cert process for CA!!) that provides full time evacuation suction on the crankcase so pressure can never build in the first place. And in doing so, flushes and removes much of the wear and damage causing contaminants before they can mix with the engine oil.


Chris, did your fuel economy change on the trip home?


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There is two optional 6.2 Camaro parts listed on your website.
What's the part number for the modified L bracket?
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Old 05-15-2020, 11:08 AM   #23
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Why would it work better in the front than on the side?
Does the temp have so much effect on suction?
Or vapor to liquid effect are poor inside the can when it’s hot?

Mine is on the side and it works fine...

1 inch in a cup after 3000 miles,
1 inch in a cup after 60 min of track
My take away: There’s a coalescence process that’s ongoing inside the CC that excessive heat has a nullifying effect on. Yes, it does work in the shock tower location, it works better away from heat of the exhaust manifold.
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Old 05-15-2020, 11:31 AM   #24
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There is gas and water in the blowby - cooler is better to reduce vapor pressure of the nasties. Larger can with more residence time/bigger velocity drop helps too of course.

So why did they mount it there in the first place is the real question, the MM can has always been in front
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Old 05-15-2020, 12:58 PM   #25
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:44 PM   #26
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I chose a fender mount style on the Hellcat and it was more than twice the amount of hose, they said that style allowed for cooling of the vapor and was actually the better choice between the 2 mount styles.....don't know if that's true, but I bit on the sales pitch.....
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:06 PM   #27
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My take away: There’s a coalescence process that’s ongoing inside the CC that excessive heat has a nullifying effect on. Yes, it does work in the shock tower location, it works better away from heat of the exhaust manifold.

So ,
Just put heat protection around the can...
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:38 PM   #28
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I chose a fender mount style on the Hellcat and it was more than twice the amount of hose, they said that style allowed for cooling of the vapor and was actually the better choice between the 2 mount styles.....don't know if that's true, but I bit on the sales pitch.....
Hmm...CC+HE...thinking...$$$thinking...$$$

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