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Old 08-05-2022, 08:11 PM   #29
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He never really offered an ETA. The 3.0 will fit under the hood and satisfy the needs of most, so they seem to be focusing on getting that out the door first.
Makes sense. Just hate to buy the 3.0 and then have second thoughts once the 3.8 comes out.
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:40 PM   #30
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Will be nice to have a screw blower option and not just a roots that’s comparable to the 2650. A Hellcat 6.2 can make 9-950 easily with stock heads/cam with its little 2.4 screw blower when ported. 3.0 Whipple is picking guys up 2-300hp over their factory IHI blower. In the Hellcat world the Whipple and IHI factory screw blower is all you mainly see. Whipple was definitely late to the party for their second go around with GenV.
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Old 08-05-2022, 09:37 PM   #31
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1210797]Ok, ill settle this. Someone buy me a whipple 3.0 ill install it and report back with the results.[/B] Deal? Cool.
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Lol that would be almost like hitting the lotto.
You fellas ain't kidding, 2650, 3.0 whipple, doesn't matter. These units have definitely become a high roller commodity.
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Old 08-05-2022, 10:45 PM   #32
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If there's anything in question, just report it. When I see something, I do my best to be unbias and fair, but it's a tough balance. I try to allow for people to say what they thing, but it quickly turns into what I think you're talking about. It does get frustrating.

I'm as interested as anyone posting so far. It's good to have options.

Respectfully.
Well said, nobody kicks each other around like King and I do, but we both know it means nothing just the way we are sometimes. I know he has the respect for me that I do for him. The Leg Humping is a new one for me for automotive as its usually relegated to the neighbor's dog humping my leg. HeeHee.
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Old 08-06-2022, 10:27 AM   #33
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https://whipplesuperchargers.com/ind...product_id=574

Looks like it's a go! I am probably not upgrading anytime soon since I am nowhere near the limits of my 2.9 but I am looking forward to seeing the results on some of the bigger builds that will make the swap!
Glad to see this, because it gives me a step up to go to ... someday Kong might even port it too
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Old 08-06-2022, 10:32 AM   #34
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Well said, nobody kicks each other around like King and I do, but we both know it means nothing just the way we are sometimes. I know he has the respect for me that I do for him. The Leg Humping is a new one for me for automotive as its usually relegated to the neighbor's dog humping my leg. HeeHee.


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Glad to see this, because it gives me a step up to go to ... someday Kong might even port it too
Yeah the 3.0 has proven to be very solid on the Coyote and Hellcat platform. So I am sure it should be solid on the 6th gen. Whipple just waited too long and I think they lost some credibility with the 2.9 because everybody expected the 2.9 to be better then the 2300 when really they are pretty close.
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Old 08-06-2022, 12:06 PM   #35
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Porting these blowers doesn't always help, some have tried on it on another brand and seen no measurable gains worth the time to pull it off, ship it and pay the cost to have it done. Probably should wait to see some results. I'm guessing it's going to be in the 8k to just buy one and I'd bet Whipple has done a lot up front to make the most power they can.
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Old 08-16-2022, 10:20 AM   #36
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Will be nice to have a screw blower option and not just a roots that’s comparable to the 2650. A Hellcat 6.2 can make 9-950 easily with stock heads/cam with its little 2.4 screw blower when ported. 3.0 Whipple is picking guys up 2-300hp over their factory IHI blower. In the Hellcat world the Whipple and IHI factory screw blower is all you mainly see. Whipple was definitely late to the party for their second go around with GenV.
I was just gonna comment something similar. I was very quick to bash the 2.9 as these big shops couldn’t get a car to go as fast as a ported stock 1.7 setup. But I’m gonna tell you as of recently I’ve tuned a few myself and had customers willing to push the pulley selection. A whipple 2.9 on 24 psi doesn’t make any more heat then it does at 18 psi. These customers are street racers don’t really dyno or go to the track so to say I have a number or et 1/4 time to post I don’t. But when a z06 can roll on a 1000cc bike with a turbo I’m guessing it’s pretty damn fast. So seems that no one was willing to push the 2.9 to a lot more rpm. I guess this is due to failures snout breaking maybe. I don’t know but going from typical 18 psi whipple build to over 20 psi really woke this car up and I was shocked by the results. The fact it added zero blower temp was just a plus as I thought they ran hot vrs the 2650 which it does vrs a 2650 at 18-20 psi on typical cooling mods and methanol. But it does plateau is what I’m seeing. Honestly I can’t wait to see what a 3.0 is capable of as a mustang is turning way more rpm then we do so they already spin the crap out of the larger rotors.
It’s really a shame Kenny bell has no interest in direct injection gm. After I made 1450whp on a gen 2 Ctsv at 25 psi with a Kenny bell I saw how good screws can really be vrs a lobe. Seems a lot more potential in a screw when it’s in a big enough case that it won’t get too hot as not enough cooling support.
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Old 08-16-2022, 10:37 AM   #37
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I was just gonna comment something similar. I was very quick to bash the 2.9 as these big shops couldn’t get a car to go as fast as a ported stock 1.7 setup. But I’m gonna tell you as of recently I’ve tuned a few myself and had customers willing to push the pulley selection. A whipple 2.9 on 24 psi doesn’t make any more heat then it does at 18 psi. These customers are street racers don’t really dyno or go to the track so to say I have a number or et 1/4 time to post I don’t. But when a z06 can roll on a 1000cc bike with a turbo I’m guessing it’s pretty damn fast. So seems that no one was willing to push the 2.9 to a lot more rpm. I guess this is due to failures snout breaking maybe. I don’t know but going from typical 18 psi whipple build to over 20 psi really woke this car up and I was shocked by the results. The fact it added zero blower temp was just a plus as I thought they ran hot vrs the 2650 which it does vrs a 2650 at 18-20 psi on typical cooling mods and methanol. But it does plateau is what I’m seeing. Honestly I can’t wait to see what a 3.0 is capable of as a mustang is turning way more rpm then we do so they already spin the crap out of the larger rotors.
It’s really a shame Kenny bell has no interest in direct injection gm. After I made 1450whp on a gen 2 Ctsv at 25 psi with a Kenny bell I saw how good screws can really be vrs a lobe. Seems a lot more potential in a screw when it’s in a big enough case that it won’t get too hot as not enough cooling support.
I think the fear of failure is a large reason people don't push the 2.9 Whipple's harder. There is a growing number of those failing now with broken shafts. Whipple will actually tell you to not spin them above 18k RPM vs others who market at 24k RPM and test even higher.

When I had my 2.9 we tried changing the pulley's to something more aggressive above 18k RPM (would need to look back to find exact pulley's) and it picked up barely any HP but a reasonable amount of torque. I agree though, would love to see this 3.0 knock it out of the park. Competition is always good for everyone.
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Old 08-16-2022, 10:38 AM   #38
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This sounds interesting and love the fact that it will fit with no mods. The one part I read though is that whipple will not calibrate it if you have any other mods to the car, needs to be stock? Why would they do that? Who leaves their car stock especially if they throwing a blower on it.
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Old 08-16-2022, 11:09 AM   #39
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I think the new 3.0 is a roots blower. I could be wrong but that's what I remember on the 3.0 Coyote.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:51 PM   #40
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I think the new 3.0 is a roots blower. I could be wrong but that's what I remember on the 3.0 Coyote.


Whipple doesn't manufacturer roots blowers. They are all twin screw.
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:38 PM   #41
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Whipple doesn't manufacturer roots blowers. They are all twin screw.
Ok I stand corrected. Thanks
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:42 PM   #42
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I could have sworn that their latest rotor assembly was Roots and similar to Magnuson Roost rotor pack. Guess I was wrong but geez that was the first time today. Haha, still have 3.5 more hours to prove myself wrong again.
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