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Old 11-28-2022, 02:37 PM   #29
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Got offered $38k today from the dealer.Doing some stupid "CYBER" monday deal,but mine does have 99k miles.Told them make it $40k and they could have it.Long story short I still have the car
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:10 PM   #30
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Yeah no trade in prices are all subject to how hard the dealer wants to screw you. There are still very few to no new ZL1's available to buy and used ones back to 2019 and more are still selling for their original sticker. If I were to trade in my 21 ZL1, I'd take no less than sticker for it at least - and that was before I put on the maggie. Now i'd sell it for $10k over its sticker for a built maggie 21 ZL1.

Here's an example of a used one right now.

CPO Crush MANUAL ZL1 with 11k miles for $73k...lol

https://www.stingraychevrolet.com/in...j1r62m0131157/
While you can't buy and build maggie equipped Z for 10k over sticker, you can't sell one for that price either. If someone wants my built 2ss for 10k over sticker, I'll certainly let it go!
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:52 PM   #31
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So here is a fine example. I had a 2021 Silverado Ltz with 6.2. I bought it for about 55,000 and sticker was over 58,000. I traded it in on my new 2022 3.0 Ltz and got 54k on trade. Got my personal property tax for 2021 and it went up 700 bucks from the year before. They get pricing from NADA based on the Vin # to figure the tax rate. I called them on it and they told me that NADA had my 2021 priced out at 61,000, 3000.00 over the sticker and 6,000 more then I paid. The dealer ended up selling but for just 1000 more than they gave me. How do I know, I know these guys very well and I've bought 40 vehicles from them. So, to the point is stuff got way over priced and now we all get to suffer for it. Mine was in taxes and some will suffer because they paid too much. My dealers lot is also full and now with rates higher they are sitting on a big inventory going into winter. The chip shortage that started at the end of 2019 really screwed everybody.
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:32 PM   #32
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Whats the last year you purchased? 21 and up "covid" cars are falling apart and guys waiting months for parts.
2018 Demon....
Cant speak for anything after that.
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:54 PM   #33
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Not surprising to me. Used car and truck prices are coming down now.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:01 PM   #34
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Yes it is tough out there for certain. I know these younger guys want their toys, I know I did, but we are getting to times where cars like Vettes or ZL1's are hard to reach. I say if you cannot pay cash walk away and wait till you can. There are some buying these car that cannot really afford them and their familys pay the price.

BTW the dealership just offered 67k for mine. I got him up, I think I'll tell him make it 68k and we got a deal.
If you can get $67-68k I would take that offer quick assuming they are not just making it up on the other end of the deal with the new purchase.

When I was buying the CT4V Blackwing they wanted $50k over sticker. I was able to buy it at MSRP but I had to let them make some money of the ZL1 trade. That said, the used market has been tanking since that deal took place and the ZL1 still isn't sold yet.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:35 PM   #35
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prices are all over the place on silverado's so bet camaros are the same, luckly i got my22 ZL1 last year just under msrp, depending on area of country and area inventory new and used now days seems way different.
my 19 silverado, nada trade 45k, kbb trade 40k, carvana 30k as of today
dealers in ny on new 23 silverado half are marked up still 3-5k, head south VA or further 23's are 3500-5k below msrp
definately a crap shoot it seems on all cars/trucks. i like to trade/buy every few years but thinking sitting back and seeing what happens for another 6-12 months.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:39 PM   #36
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While you can't buy and build maggie equipped Z for 10k over sticker, you can't sell one for that price either. If someone wants my built 2ss for 10k over sticker, I'll certainly let it go!
Sure you can. Modded cars sell for well over normal market value all over the place.
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:18 PM   #37
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Sure you can. Modded cars sell for well over normal market value all over the place.
I suppose, but you certainly have to find the right buyer
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:49 PM   #38
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Got offered $38k today from the dealer.Doing some stupid "CYBER" monday deal,but mine does have 99k miles.Told them make it $40k and they could have it.Long story short I still have the car
I would highlight this post. He’s willing to sell a ZL1 at 40k that should tell you everything you need to know. There are 5th gen ZL1s with 20kmiles selling for over $40k
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:52 AM   #39
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Several dealers, Even tried to try my luck on the big car selling sites-Wrong
This car had over a 71k MSRP and has never been abused-900 miles. 60k, Ill burn it before I trade for that. I am kinda wishing I would have bought a HEllcat-they are really holding their Values.
same had a widebody 2020 hellcat absolute junk. Shitty low quality engineering. Great sound tho that wine was so intoxicating especially with my Bwoody intake.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:37 AM   #40
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I wanted to sell or trade my car in and was offered 58-62. I only bought the car because I saw used ZL1s selling for MSRP on new ones or higher. I want to trade it for a Tahoe, dealer said maybe 60k WoW.
I would wait a couple of years. These cars are going to go back up in value.

They won't make this car for much longer and we already know the Hellcat is done.

Guys don't want electric "performance" cars; they want a V8. When you can't buy those anymore, prices will go up.
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Old 11-29-2022, 07:24 AM   #41
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I would wait a couple of years. These cars are going to go back up in value.

They won't make this car for much longer and we already know the Hellcat is done.

Guys don't want electric "performance" cars; they want a V8. When you can't buy those anymore, prices will go up.
As a fan of V8 performance cars, I want to believe this to be the case but I am starting to have my doubts. Sure there will always be enthusiasts but the pool of buyers who desire these aspects of a vehicle continues to shrink.

Road congestion is sapping the fun out of driving manual transmissions and as the newer auto technologies come to market I think the younger generations will value AI, fancy display/gauge clusters, smooth silent instant power delivery, one pedal driving, low operation cost, etc. more than the V8 soundtrack. These younger folks will have no reference or care about V8 noises. V8 torque is being replaced by EV, Hybrid or powerful low lag turbo based power trains. Soon we will have hybrid C8 Corvettes, which will further minimize the negative stigma of hybrid/electric powertrains.
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Old 11-29-2022, 07:25 AM   #42
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One thing you have to look out for are dealers that are going into KBB and using the instant trade offer. Which is a lot lower than the actual trade in value and I believe to be actual fraud since you, the seller, needs to put in the info. Not the dealer.

I had a dealer do that to me with my 2019 Silverado LT that i wanted to trade in on another truck. They wanted to give me $38k for almost year old, $52k truck. I actually paid around $45k for it with all the rebates that trucks use to have.

Either way, I explained what they were looking at and told the sales person that this is the instant trade offer, which I did not consent to you using, and they came back with the $43k trade in that the truck actually had on kbb.
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