[radz28]

JSH - Maybe I missed it, but did you ever think about, or try that lid spacer Jack recommended?

[CamOnlyJabroni]

Originally Posted by JSH

What's their link?

The lid they make is for the maggy 2650 unfortunately.

https://dsxtuning.com/products/magnu...rcharger-cover

[EDFHOBBIES]

I'm using a PLM exchanger nothing fancy same measurement as the recognized manufacturers. Not sure where they source there cores.

Here is a 82 day just cruising

Iat 2 10 degrees over ambient
Iat 3 22 degrees doesn't matter if it's 100 out or 45 out it's iat 2 is 10 degrees over and iat 3 is 22 degrees warmer than ambient temp.

Plm exchanger
Factory pump pushes fluid back to trunk tank, the stewart supplies coolant to the bricks. Never needed ice.

My iat 2 and 3 fall just the same its not just a maggi only phenomenon.

1st pic blue gauge just as described

2nd pic lost stewart pump due to blown fuse

So you can see the it's not always the the formula 1 brick technology that you talk about.

Send me a pic with no chiller at operating temp just as shown by oil or coolant temps let's see where the iats are at on the maggi with 19 psi car.

As soon as Matt finishes some tuning on my trans torque tables I'll show you the iats 2 and 3 fall.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni

The lid they make is for the maggy 2650 unfortunately.

https://dsxtuning.com/products/magnu...rcharger-cover

Dsx has the lid file I sent him 1 he has one he may make a lid.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by radz28

JSH - Maybe I missed it, but did you ever think about, or try that lid spacer Jack recommended?

No, because my lid touched the hood, so we removed hood material so it would clear, and I have not ordered LPE's insert. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I assumed the lid spacer would make my hood/lid clearances worse. I do not recall from Jack's post if he thought it would or wouldn't.

[JSH]

I assume you refer to this one? https://privatelabelmfg.com/collecti...harged-6-2-lsa

But hold it one second here! Below, you only mention IAT, not MAT. When my MAT is 145F just after the shift, my IAT is 60F and IAT 2 is 63F. Am I focusing on the wrong temp?

My IATs are always low, 60-65F.

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I'm using a PLM exchanger nothing fancy same measurement as the recognized manufacturers. Not sure where they source there cores.

Here is a 82 day just cruising

Iat 2 10 degrees over ambient
Iat 3 22 degrees doesn't matter if it's 100 out or 45 out it's iat 2 is 10 degrees over and iat 3 is 22 degrees warmer than ambient temp.

Plm exchanger
Factory pump pushes fluid back to trunk tank, the stewart supplies coolant to the bricks. Never needed ice.

My iat 2 and 3 fall just the same its not just a maggi only phenomenon.

1st pic blue gauge just as described

2nd pic lost stewart pump due to blown fuse

So you can see the it's not always the the formula 1 brick technology that you talk about.

Send me a pic with no chiller at operating temp just as shown by oil or coolant temps let's see where the iats are at on the maggi with 19 psi car.

As soon as Matt finishes some tuning on my trans torque tables I'll show you the iats 2 and 3 fall.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by JSH

I assume you refer to this one? https://privatelabelmfg.com/collecti...harged-6-2-lsa

But hold it one second here! Below, you only mention IAT, not MAT. When my MAT is 145F just after the shift, my IAT is 60F and IAT 2 is 63F. Am I focusing on the wrong temp?

My IATs are always low, 60-65F.

When going through the functions of the gauge MAT reads the same as one of the IAT sensors remember if it's 2 or 3

[JSH]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Dsx has the lid file I sent him 1 he has one he may make a lid.

I just him a msg, thx.

PS - Due to low demand, he does not an Eddie lid

[JSH]

Originally Posted by radz28

Thanks to you, and everyone else to try to stay on track, and helpful on the topic.

And I also want to thank everyone for responding to my questions. This type of conversation is when the site is at its best.

[KingLT1]

JSH's issue isn't cruising temps.... the blower is being spun hard.
The 10,000ft elevation is making his 2650 act more like a 2300 far as efficiency is concerned. The air is much thinner which requires a lot more supercharger RPM to make boost. You cannot compare sea level to where he is at regardless of the air temperature outside. Making 19-20psi @ 10k ft is working the Eddie hard.


On a recent log his ambient temp is 68*. MAT is 80* pre pull. His MAT shoots up to 136* on a 5th gear only pull by 6900rpm, Then MAT drops back down to 80* within 25 seconds. That fast of recovery tells me the cooling system is working really well.

The only thing that is going the help keep temps down during a pull is Meth just like the Max effort stock blower cars use when moon boosting the race port 1.7's. Or you switch to E85 and raise the IAT spark correction table as ToohighPSI suggested.

Either way with race fuel it's not picking up any knock with 23 degrees timing @ 140-150 degrees. So it's really not a big deal either way unless he plans on racing it in the middle of the summer then it might pull some timing on the big end. To remedy that it will need meth, E, or larger pulley.

[radz28]

So, if we accept around 3% power loss, per thousand feet of elevation, he's probably making closer to 1100 to the tire at an air density of around sea level?

Maybe there isn't much to be done outside of adding meth, unless he changes the VE of the engine.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

To remedy that it will need meth, E, or larger pulley.

I could also run it as-is with the 2.75 and wait until March T&T's to determine whether I need to put the 3" upper back on it. I'm trying to prepare now for racing next year at 8000-9000 ft. DA with much higher ambient and MAT.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by radz28

Maybe there isn't much to be done outside of adding meth, unless he changes the VE of the engine.

Dare I ask, what's involved with adding meth?! Larger FP and/or injectors?

I'll dyno it this month and post it.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by JSH

Dare I ask, what's involved with adding meth?! Larger FP and/or injectors?

I'll dyno it this month and post it.

You'll need a meth pump and run lines to the intake and some tuning to compensate for the added fuel in the ECM. It'll spray right into the intake.