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RealQuick · 11-12-2016, 05:36 PM

Car is a 2010 Camaro with heads/cam/7675 and makes over 700rwhp on stock bottom end. I run anywhere between 8-15psi depending on the situation.

Kit has been working great all summer (only about 200 miles + 40 dyno pulls.

This morning I was getting ready to hit the dyno, and when I turned the key forward to upload a new tune, the car started spraying methanol full tilt (green LED lit up immediately) while the car was off. I just checked all connections/fuses and it looks good. I tested the 2 bar map that came with the kit and the green wire reads 2.36v with the key on (engine off and vacuum line open to atmosphere).

For some reason, the controller is saying go full tilt with the key on.

Thoughts? Any help is appreciated as I want to hit the dyno one more time before the first snow (I live in MA).

I am waiting to hear back from Julio. My guess is the controller crapped out.

Thanks

Jon

Gearheaded · 11-13-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

Car is a 2010 Camaro with heads/cam/7675 and makes over 700rwhp on stock bottom end. I run anywhere between 8-15psi depending on the situation.

Kit has been working great all summer (only about 200 miles + 40 dyno pulls.

This morning I was getting ready to hit the dyno, and when I turned the key forward to upload a new tune, the car started spraying methanol full tilt (green LED lit up immediately) while the car was off. I just checked all connections/fuses and it looks good. I tested the 2 bar map that came with the kit and the green wire reads 2.36v with the key on (engine off and vacuum line open to atmosphere).

For some reason, the controller is saying go full tilt with the key on.

Thoughts? Any help is appreciated as I want to hit the dyno one more time before the first snow (I live in MA).

I am waiting to hear back from Julio. My guess is the controller crapped out.

Thanks

Jon

Who did the tune?

RealQuick · 11-13-2016, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gearheaded

Who did the tune?

I do my own tuning.

RealQuick · 11-13-2016, 04:41 PM

So MAP reads 2.3 volts with key on, and turn on voltage at the controller is 3.4v, so it should not be spraying with the engine off. Gonna send the controller to Julio tomorrow.

wrtowman · 11-13-2016, 05:11 PM

If someone said they have only driven 200 miles and been down the track 40 times, I wouldnt bat an eye. But 40 dyno pulls? Thats crazy talk. lol

Hope you get it figured out soon.

RealQuick · 11-13-2016, 06:38 PM

Lol. Yeah, 3 sessions, 40 pulls. The first two sessions I ended up with burnt plug wires. The last one went well, but airflow restriction prevent the numbers I anticipated. Was supposed to head back yesterday for a 4th session to get final numbers, but issues with the meth kit prevented that.

1KillerSS · 11-14-2016, 10:30 AM

Call Julio and talk to him, he is a wealth of knowledge.

RealQuick · 11-14-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

Call Julio and talk to him, he is a wealth of knowledge.

Yeah, he has been quick to reply to my emails. Quick diagnostics point to the controller going bad. Sucks since just bought it over last winter, and have hardly any use on it. I do understand that stuff happens though...

1KillerSS · 11-14-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

Yeah, he has been quick to reply to my emails. Quick diagnostics point to the controller going bad. Sucks since just bought it over last winter, and have hardly any use on it. I do understand that stuff happens though...

Yea, I know the feeling, Since I have installed mine, I have replaced the tank cap, and installed a new meth pump. The tank cap was never perfect to start with, and was super tight, I needed to pry it off to fill. Then one day It just broke. That was like 6 months after I got it all installed. The pump I attribute to the car sitting for a year, but who knows. All I know is the mileage I have on the kit is low like you, and like you I have had to replace parts.

SDTWDirect · 11-14-2016, 11:39 AM

I might have missed it, but out of curiosity, which kit or controller are you using? At least your bench test on the 2bar MAP is showing correct. If you disconnect any load input to the controller, does it stop spraying with the key switched to the on position?

-AL of SDTW Direct

RealQuick · 11-14-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SDTWDirect

I might have missed it, but out of curiosity, which kit or controller are you using? At least your bench test on the 2bar MAP is showing correct. If you disconnect any load input to the controller, does it stop spraying with the key switched to the on position?

-AL of SDTW Direct

I am using the Alky Control Kit from Julio with their progressive controller. It is driven off of the MAP signal. When I unplug the MAP sensor, its stops spraying.

11-12-2016, 05:36 PM	#1
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	Issue with Meth kit Car is a 2010 Camaro with heads/cam/7675 and makes over 700rwhp on stock bottom end. I run anywhere between 8-15psi depending on the situation. Kit has been working great all summer (only about 200 miles + 40 dyno pulls. This morning I was getting ready to hit the dyno, and when I turned the key forward to upload a new tune, the car started spraying methanol full tilt (green LED lit up immediately) while the car was off. I just checked all connections/fuses and it looks good. I tested the 2 bar map that came with the kit and the green wire reads 2.36v with the key on (engine off and vacuum line open to atmosphere). For some reason, the controller is saying go full tilt with the key on. Thoughts? Any help is appreciated as I want to hit the dyno one more time before the first snow (I live in MA). I am waiting to hear back from Julio. My guess is the controller crapped out. Thanks Jon

11-13-2016, 05:11 PM	#5
wrtowman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Warner Robins Ga Posts: 778	If someone said they have only driven 200 miles and been down the track 40 times, I wouldnt bat an eye. But 40 dyno pulls? Thats crazy talk. lol Hope you get it figured out soon. __________________ 2011 SGM Camaro 1SS/RS A6 - Vengeance Racing built/tuned. 590RWHP/560RWTQ, ADM LSA Conversion, 2.5 Grip-Tec, ZL1 fuel pump, ADM FPCM, FIC1000, VRPD2 Cam and LS3 Conversion with all the internal goodies, American Racing 1 7/8 Headers, no cats, SW Retro Cat Back, ADM Intake, AFCO HX, Varimax Pump, Rotofab Reservoir, B&M Transmission Cooler, VMAX TB, Elite Engineering CC, BMR LCAs, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, DSS 1000hp axles, ZL1 Bumper and Sideskirts, Night Owl Halos, Matte Black 20" Rohana RC-22 with 20x10-275s/20x11-315s, R1 Concept Premier Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hawk Ceramic Pads.

11-14-2016, 10:30 AM	#7
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Call Julio and talk to him, he is a wealth of knowledge. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

11-13-2016, 04:41 PM	#4
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	So MAP reads 2.3 volts with key on, and turn on voltage at the controller is 3.4v, so it should not be spraying with the engine off. Gonna send the controller to Julio tomorrow.

11-13-2016, 06:38 PM	#6
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	Lol. Yeah, 3 sessions, 40 pulls. The first two sessions I ended up with burnt plug wires. The last one went well, but airflow restriction prevent the numbers I anticipated. Was supposed to head back yesterday for a 4th session to get final numbers, but issues with the meth kit prevented that.

11-14-2016, 11:39 AM	#10
SDTWDirect Drives: Highly Modified Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 133	I might have missed it, but out of curiosity, which kit or controller are you using? At least your bench test on the 2bar MAP is showing correct. If you disconnect any load input to the controller, does it stop spraying with the key switched to the on position? -AL of SDTW Direct