Zle 10 sp vs Zl1 10 sp - Page 2

HoodCheck · 05-25-2022, 02:41 PM

On paper, they run the EXACT same. Why would you think there would be any difference? The aero isn't making a difference in 1/4 mile run....the only thing to go off of really is preference and looks. The ZLE looks much meaner, but its not a ride for everyone. Outside of that, there shouldnt be any difference. I've owned both (although my ZLE is a manual)....I don't track my ZLE, I use it as a daily, and it certainly can be used for straight line runs if you wanted (in fact, IF I were to race, thats likely all it would be).

GreenZLE · 05-25-2022, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maro_89

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h7rvSKO_bRk

I raced a Z06 on the highway from a 40 roll up to 160. He pulled about a car and then around 140 I started to pull back on him and we were just about even at 160. The only thing we could figure is I was getting more airflow to cool the heat exchangers that might have given me a bit more power. Some thought it was the 10 speed.

KILLA BEE · 05-25-2022, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HoodCheck

On paper, they run the EXACT same. Why would you think there would be any difference? The aero isn't making a difference in 1/4 mile run....the only thing to go off of really is preference and looks. The ZLE looks much meaner, but its not a ride for everyone. Outside of that, there shouldnt be any difference. I've owned both (although my ZLE is a manual)....I don't track my ZLE, I use it as a daily, and it certainly can be used for straight line runs if you wanted (in fact, IF I were to race, thats likely all it would be).

Because that's they talk about online! Is the aero and the downforce, hopefully I can run one and quiet the masses

Maro_89 · 05-25-2022, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenZLE

I raced a Z06 on the highway from a 40 roll up to 160. He pulled about a car and then around 140 I started to pull back on him and we were just about even at 160. The only thing we could figure is I was getting more airflow to cool the heat exchangers that might have given me a bit more power. Some thought it was the 10 speed.

What stage aero did the Z06 have?

CW3SF · 05-25-2022, 06:21 PM

Funny thread. ZLE owners say they are faster on a road course because of the aero but they don’t think the aero will slow them down on a straight line run. That’s hilarious LOL. Aero creates drag. Own it. You are faster on a road course. You are slower going straight at high speed.

JSH · 05-25-2022, 07:24 PM

Just need to have a shop reduce the angle of the rear wing and downforce to something like 50#, and we'd be good.

RamAir02 · 05-25-2022, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CW3SF

Funny thread. ZLE owners say they are faster on a road course because of the aero but they don’t think the aero will slow them down on a straight line run. That’s hilarious LOL. Aero creates drag. Own it. You are faster on a road course. You are slower going straight at high speed.

I don't think anyone implied this. The point I believe people are trying to make is that on an unprepped surface (street) and with amateur drivers (most drivers you'll come across, most drivers here) the difference would be in the launch, reaction & driver ability.

If we're talking on the dragstrip, it's really not even worth discussing. If you bought a ZLE for drag racing, you brought the wrong ZL1. Outside of the aero, the DSSV suspension is not optimized for weight transfer and will negatively impact grip / traction from a dig.

Z OH 6 · 05-25-2022, 08:31 PM

There are really only two factors worth talking, as someone already stated the stiffer suspension in the 1LE is certainly not helping any for drag racing because of poor weight transfer. The other is the 1LE aero which probably has little affect until around 100mph at which point it has to have SOME effect, even if it's minor. I think the difference between a standard ZL1 and 1LE is probably minimal from a roll up until 100mph plus at which point the standard model should start to gain an advantage as speed continues to increase.

JSH · 05-25-2022, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RamAir02

If you bought a ZLE for drag racing, you brought the wrong ZL1. . . . the DSSV suspension is not optimized for weight transfer and will negatively impact grip / traction from a dig.

I didn't buy mine for drag racing only and haven't experienced any unusual problems with traction at the strip or a dig. I ran 1.60 on my last and 9th pass and I can see running 1.40s at 8000 ft. [1st pass was 1.90 something] Since I put these Toyos on it, traction is not a problem. It makes a good ET Series drag car.

Tay · 05-25-2022, 10:01 PM

GreenZLE · 05-25-2022, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CW3SF

Funny thread. ZLE owners say they are faster on a road course because of the aero but they don’t think the aero will slow them down on a straight line run. That’s hilarious LOL. Aero creates drag. Own it. You are faster on a road course. You are slower going straight at high speed.

Should be that way. I ran a 11.2@124 at Gateway on a 50deg night FWIW. My best 60' was 1.69. Typical is 1.75.

GreenZLE · 05-25-2022, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Maro_89

What stage aero did the Z06 have?

Not sure. It has a small spoiler on the back as I remember.

Z OH 6 · 05-26-2022, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW3SF

Funny thread. ZLE owners say they are faster on a road course because of the aero but they don’t think the aero will slow them down on a straight line run. That’s hilarious LOL. Aero creates drag. Own it. You are faster on a road course. You are slower going straight at high speed.

100%, you can't have it both ways. Also add wider tires creates more drag also, even more so when they poke outside the fenders.

raptor5244 · 05-26-2022, 05:45 AM

Remember this video?

05-25-2022, 02:41 PM	#15
HoodCheck Drives: 2018 ZLE (M6/hyper blue) Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lithia, FL Posts: 762	On paper, they run the EXACT same. Why would you think there would be any difference? The aero isn't making a difference in 1/4 mile run....the only thing to go off of really is preference and looks. The ZLE looks much meaner, but its not a ride for everyone. Outside of that, there shouldnt be any difference. I've owned both (although my ZLE is a manual)....I don't track my ZLE, I use it as a daily, and it certainly can be used for straight line runs if you wanted (in fact, IF I were to race, thats likely all it would be). __________________ Current: 2018 ZLE (M6/hyper blue) Former: 2014 Z/28 (red hot); 2017 ZL1 (auto/white); 2015 Z/28 (black); 2016 2SS (auto/hyper blue); 2012 2SS (45th anniversary/auto); 1994 Firehawk (auto/dark green); 2005 GTO (M6/blue on blue); 1999 Camaro SS (M6/pewter); 1994 Z/28 (auto/blue); 1991 Firebird (auto/red); 1988 IROC (auto/copper metallic); 1983 Camaro (auto/blue); 1981 Firebird (auto/maroon/350 Olds swap)....the list goes on...

05-25-2022, 06:21 PM	#19
CW3SF Drives: 2019 Chevy Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,252 View My Garage	Funny thread. ZLE owners say they are faster on a road course because of the aero but they don’t think the aero will slow them down on a straight line run. That’s hilarious LOL. Aero creates drag. Own it. You are faster on a road course. You are slower going straight at high speed. __________________ Kong Stage X Port, NW103, LPE HPFP, XDI +30 Injectors, ARH Headers, Flex Fuel, JMS Booster, AWE Touring, Elite E2-X CC. Stock heads, stock cam, stock pulleys: Tuned by KingLT1. 740whp Uncorrected on e50

05-25-2022, 07:24 PM	#20
JSH Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Mile High Posts: 3,559	Just need to have a shop reduce the angle of the rear wing and downforce to something like 50#, and we'd be good. __________________ '20 ZL1 1LE A10, OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next.

05-25-2022, 08:31 PM	#22
Z OH 6 Drives: 2021 Red Hot ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gapplebees Posts: 3,084	There are really only two factors worth talking, as someone already stated the stiffer suspension in the 1LE is certainly not helping any for drag racing because of poor weight transfer. The other is the 1LE aero which probably has little affect until around 100mph at which point it has to have SOME effect, even if it's minor. I think the difference between a standard ZL1 and 1LE is probably minimal from a roll up until 100mph plus at which point the standard model should start to gain an advantage as speed continues to increase. Last edited by Z OH 6; 05-26-2022 at 03:55 AM.

05-25-2022, 10:01 PM	#24
Tay Drives: 1985 Oldsmobuick Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 156

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