Homepage Garage Wiki Register Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > CAMARO6.com General Forums > Member Car Journals


Bigwormgraphix


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-22-2023, 01:54 PM   #43
keep_hope_alive
Electrical Engineer
 
keep_hope_alive's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Illinois
Posts: 715
Quote:
Originally Posted by CTRifecta View Post
Amazing attention to detail. I can't wait to hear your review of how it sounds. Also curious to how much weight has been added when all said and done.
Thanks. I'll have a video series on my YouTube channel documenting the process along with measurements and reviews of the changes.

The short summary is that it's quiet enough now that you only hear the engine/exhaust when revs are high, and tire/road noise is mostly gone. A small bit of music is all you need to overcome everything else - which achieves the desired goal. I can have music on at a comfortable volume, near conversation levels, and the music is all you hear.

When going over bumps, you'll get a small bit of suspension noise, but nothing annoying. Treating the wheel wells was a huge improvement as a step 2. Nothing comes from the rear, it's really quiet back there and rear passengers say that the only noise they hear is from the front. The firewall is not treated. The floors could be treated a bit better with added barrier on top of the CLD. That may be a spring project.

As far as weight, about two Americans. Center of gravity is lower and more rearward. This is a daily driver, not a racecar, so some added weight to make it more enjoyable is totally worth it.
__________________
2023 1SS A10 Black NPP/C2U/H72 - Daily Driver
Historically an Accord and Camry owner with self-performed maintenance/repair.

1100: 5/3/22 . . . . . . . 2000: 6/25/22 . . . . . .3000: 6/29/22
TPW : 8/15/22 . . . . . . 3800: 8/16/22 . . . . . .4000: 8/17/22
ETA : 9/13/22. . . . . . . 5000: 9/08/22 . . . . . .6000: 9/10/22

Daily Driver mileage update: 22k mi. @ December 2023
Total MPG Average: 23.2 @ 34mph average over 20k+ mi.
Best MPG: 30.5 @ 51mph average over 220 mi.

Build Log: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...6#post11353116
keep_hope_alive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2023, 01:42 PM   #44
hrpiii
AKA "Beefcake"
 
hrpiii's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indy
Posts: 8,523
Just amazed. My skill level for something like that is a -2 if the scale is 1-10. I would of never thought to do the wheel wells, that was just awesome. Beautiful work!
hrpiii is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 08:54 PM   #45
keep_hope_alive
Electrical Engineer
 
keep_hope_alive's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Illinois
Posts: 715
Quote:
Originally Posted by hrpiii View Post
Just amazed. My skill level for something like that is a -2 if the scale is 1-10. I would of never thought to do the wheel wells, that was just awesome. Beautiful work!
Thanks! It's just really time consuming and you go as slow as you have to do get a nice result.

The wheel wells are a huge source of noise. I fully treated the rear quarters so those wheel wells are treated from inside but I couldn't get to the front quarters any other way.
__________________
2023 1SS A10 Black NPP/C2U/H72 - Daily Driver
Historically an Accord and Camry owner with self-performed maintenance/repair.

1100: 5/3/22 . . . . . . . 2000: 6/25/22 . . . . . .3000: 6/29/22
TPW : 8/15/22 . . . . . . 3800: 8/16/22 . . . . . .4000: 8/17/22
ETA : 9/13/22. . . . . . . 5000: 9/08/22 . . . . . .6000: 9/10/22

Daily Driver mileage update: 22k mi. @ December 2023
Total MPG Average: 23.2 @ 34mph average over 20k+ mi.
Best MPG: 30.5 @ 51mph average over 220 mi.

Build Log: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...6#post11353116
keep_hope_alive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2024, 07:48 PM   #46
19ZL1Chris
 
Drives: Chevy Camaro ZL1
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1
Great read. Any current updates ? I just found this build and love it.

I'm doing the same in my '19ZL1. I'm actually changing it up again. About to do all the Bose replacements next. Either audiofrog or hertz. I'm running the Axxess-AXDSPX-ETH1 to 2 mini max 1004s and a jp43 . But changing out the 1004s for the 34ab again. 2 of em. A single X12v3 for sub.

Soon as LLj customs starts to make loop ack harnesses again I'm grabbing one of them and doing a Helix DSP. I really dislike this axcesaa one.

Anyways would love to see more of this build.
19ZL1Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2024, 08:10 PM   #47
FrostZ
 
FrostZ's Avatar
 
Drives: 2019 A10 ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 135
Fantastic write up! I am also in the process of a build using a fully active 3 way Audiofrog GB10,25,60 system in my 19 ZL1 and this has been an amazing read full of tips and info to better my system setup. Unfortunately I get to content with the Bose OEM amp, but hopefully my Axxess interface paired with a Helix DSP Pro MK3 will be able to get a clean and workable signal for me. I love the attention to detail you put into both your build and the writeup of the process, thank you for all of that as it really helped in the final planning stages before starting right after the new year.
__________________
Morimoto Headlights, AWE Touring Catback, MM Catch Can, ADM V2 Reservoir, Roto-Fab, C&R Oil Cooler, 1LE Grills
FrostZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2024, 11:55 PM   #48
keep_hope_alive
Electrical Engineer
 
keep_hope_alive's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Illinois
Posts: 715
Quote:
Originally Posted by 19ZL1Chris View Post
Great read. Any current updates ? I just found this build and love it.

I'm doing the same in my '19ZL1. I'm actually changing it up again. About to do all the Bose replacements next. Either audiofrog or hertz. I'm running the Axxess-AXDSPX-ETH1 to 2 mini max 1004s and a jp43 . But changing out the 1004s for the 34ab again. 2 of em. A single X12v3 for sub.

Soon as LLj customs starts to make loop ack harnesses again I'm grabbing one of them and doing a Helix DSP. I really dislike this axcesaa one.

Anyways would love to see more of this build.

Thanks! The update is that I am still enjoying the quiet ride and the vast improvement that the new speakers provide. Life is busy and thus I am waiting for the next steps, which include a measurement of the factory EQ and then integration of the JL MVi amplifiers. Then I'll have to modify the dash covers in order to fit the ML70 and ML28 in, which will happen when it warms up in spring.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostZ View Post
Fantastic write up! I am also in the process of a build using a fully active 3 way Audiofrog GB10,25,60 system in my 19 ZL1 and this has been an amazing read full of tips and info to better my system setup. Unfortunately I get to content with the Bose OEM amp, but hopefully my Axxess interface paired with a Helix DSP Pro MK3 will be able to get a clean and workable signal for me. I love the attention to detail you put into both your build and the writeup of the process, thank you for all of that as it really helped in the final planning stages before starting right after the new year.
My attention to sound absorption, gaskets, and barriers is vital to the success of any system of any price. I've judged several cars with that combination of GB speakers and they usually sound very nice. But even the best speakers can be terrible if the environment is poor.

I specifically ordered my car without Bose to simplify the process, but also chose the 1SS over the LT1 to get the 8" screen (along with the other benefits).
__________________
2023 1SS A10 Black NPP/C2U/H72 - Daily Driver
Historically an Accord and Camry owner with self-performed maintenance/repair.

1100: 5/3/22 . . . . . . . 2000: 6/25/22 . . . . . .3000: 6/29/22
TPW : 8/15/22 . . . . . . 3800: 8/16/22 . . . . . .4000: 8/17/22
ETA : 9/13/22. . . . . . . 5000: 9/08/22 . . . . . .6000: 9/10/22

Daily Driver mileage update: 22k mi. @ December 2023
Total MPG Average: 23.2 @ 34mph average over 20k+ mi.
Best MPG: 30.5 @ 51mph average over 220 mi.

Build Log: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...6#post11353116
keep_hope_alive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2024, 12:49 AM   #49
keep_hope_alive
Electrical Engineer
 
keep_hope_alive's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Illinois
Posts: 715
After the noise treatments in the doors, floor, and rear of the Camaro, I turned my attention to the firewall. These vehicles have a tube that runs from the engine intake pathway to the firewall, with a diaphragm to isolate airspace but allow sound to pass through. The solution is to 3D print two pieces that let you plug each of the holes – one at the firewall and one at the intake pathway, just before the throttle body. I printed these out of ABS.

The fire wall connection looks like this:




[img]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e128/phat_funky_beats/20240124_211949.jpg[img]



The hose connection at the intake pathway looks like this:


And the rubber hose clamps are easily opened and removed as they just use push-clips.


The diaphragm is held with T50 Torx bolts:




With the hose removed, you have this:


The result at the firewall is this piece with butyl gasketing:


The result at the intake pathway is this plug that fits perfectly:




The result is very noticeable. All of the intake noise is gone. The chugging noise from V4 mode is gone. The cabin is much more comfortable.
__________________
2023 1SS A10 Black NPP/C2U/H72 - Daily Driver
Historically an Accord and Camry owner with self-performed maintenance/repair.

1100: 5/3/22 . . . . . . . 2000: 6/25/22 . . . . . .3000: 6/29/22
TPW : 8/15/22 . . . . . . 3800: 8/16/22 . . . . . .4000: 8/17/22
ETA : 9/13/22. . . . . . . 5000: 9/08/22 . . . . . .6000: 9/10/22

Daily Driver mileage update: 22k mi. @ December 2023
Total MPG Average: 23.2 @ 34mph average over 20k+ mi.
Best MPG: 30.5 @ 51mph average over 220 mi.

Build Log: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...6#post11353116
keep_hope_alive is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply

Tags
acoustic, audio, speakers, stereo, subwoofer

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.