Skip Shift

drivingagain · 01-26-2016, 03:31 PM

SO I have never had the skip shift and remember hearing about it in the 4th gen camaro's and thinking what a hassle it must be. Fast forward to the 6th gen I have now and I do not understand the big deal now. During the break in I shifted through each gear to let the car use the rpms to break in and no lugging. The other question I have is when my car shows skip shift on the dash I can put it into 3rd gear rather than 4th. I found out because when I am barely on the gas I naturally go from 1st to 3rd to 5th then 6th gear. If I am already rolling rather than a dead stop I just use 2nd. To me the natural shifting of the car does not really effect me with the skip shift.

Anyone else notice you do not have to go from 1st to 4th when the shift light on the dash comes on or is this not common?

Edit: Maybe another reason for not really bothered by skip shift is I live in Florida flat higher speed roads. In this part of FL anyways.

crankaholic · 02-15-2016, 01:16 PM

The newer skip sift algorithm is much better than what was on the T56 transmissions (4th gen)... that one used to drive me mad. However, I'm still occasionally forced to make a 1-4 during a tight low-speed turn. I put on the eliminator just for that - plus it's like $15 and 15 minutes of your time and you never have to deal with it again.

JRS · 02-18-2016, 06:41 PM

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH MY 2SS MAKING ME SKIP SHIFT UNTIL IT GOT OVER 1000 MILES ON IT AND NOW IT FORCES YOU TO SHIFT TO 4TH. I TRIED FORCING IT INTO 2ND AND 3RD BUT IT WILL ONLY LET ME GO INTO 4TH. THIS WAS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT SO I'M GOING TO PUT A SKIP SHIFT ELIMATOR ON.

priusowners · 03-05-2016, 08:44 AM

I didn't notice any messages until we got over 100 & some miles (now at 161)

Since new, 6th seems to be the only gear locked out at slow speeds & Reverse (thankfully) when moving.

Now we get the message but so far it has NO EFFECT on gear selection.

Same with hill-assist--after failing to initialize it--now it's suddenly on-line.

Yet the OM states that trying to select a gear other than 4th when in skip-shift
mode can cause damage--I'm clueless!

Techn9cian805 · 03-05-2016, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by priusowners

I didn't notice any messages until we got over 100 & some miles (now at 161)

Since new, 6th seems to be the only gear locked out at slow speeds & Reverse (thankfully) when moving.

Now we get the message but so far it has NO EFFECT on gear selection.

Same with hill-assist--after failing to initialize it--now it's suddenly on-line.

Yet the OM states that trying to select a gear other than 4th when in skip-shift
mode can cause damage--I'm clueless!

Not true. It will give you the message and sometimes thats the end of it, and other times it will slide you right into 4th. It just depends on your style of driving. If youre driving in a way that is not 100% fuel innefficient, then it wont force you, but if your like me and like to rev up slowly to about 3.5 RPM before shifting then it will force it.

I ordered my eliminator anyways to avoid this hasstle.

priusowners · 03-05-2016, 07:00 PM

Thanks for the INFO--now I'm less clueless.
My eyes are 98% outside the car so I rarely see the info messages.
Re CAGS-- I bought the Vette "smart fuse" & have a question:

What's CGM stand for in the engine fuse box position F47?

OM says, "not used"

Thanks again,

Jeff

Curr · 03-07-2016, 10:22 AM

Just so you people know, it locks you out of second, but doesn't "force" you in 4th. If it does catch you, just shift into 3rd.

Techn9cian805 · 03-07-2016, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curr

Just so you people know, it locks you out of second, but doesn't "force" you in 4th. If it does catch you, just shift into 3rd.

I guess force isn't the right word. for me, more often than not, I get the 1-4 message, and can still go to 2nd.

however, there have been times when it slides me into 4th. its like a little slide is put in place that looks like this

1 ... 3 ... 5
| |
| |
.\ \
...\ \
.....\ \
......| |
......| |
2 ... 4 ... 6

and it just guides you into 4th instead of just letting me shift to 2nd.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-07-2016, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curr

Just so you people know, it locks you out of second, but doesn't "force" you in 4th. If it does catch you, just shift into 3rd.

It's supposed to lock you out of 3rd, as well. I know I've been unable to make a 1-3 shift when "CAGS" activates.

But the feature doesn't maintain the lock out for any more than 2 seconds. If your shift is even a little bit delayed, a shift to second or even 3rd is possible.

6spdhyperblue · 03-07-2016, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

It's supposed to lock you out of 3rd, as well. I know I've been unable to make a 1-3 shift when "CAGS" activates.

But the feature doesn't maintain the lock out for any more than 2 seconds. If your shift is even a little bit delayed, a shift to second or even 3rd is possible.

is this new? if i remember correctly in the t56 the solenoid pops out to block 2nd. never opened up a tr6060 tho

RobbyRocketz · 03-09-2016, 02:08 AM

Where does one purchase the eliminator from?
Does it trigger a cell when used?
And couldn't the feature be turned off with a tuner?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-09-2016, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicul15

is this new? if i remember correctly in the t56 the solenoid pops out to block 2nd. never opened up a tr6060 tho

No idea. Just reporting that I felt as though I couldn't get into third either when activated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyRocketz

Where does one purchase the eliminator from?
Does it trigger a cell when used?
And couldn't the feature be turned off with a tuner?

SLP sells one, I think Gen5DIY sells one, too. No check engine lights in a little under a year. As far as I know, you can shut it off with a tuner. But many don't want to risk a powertrain warranty issue after futsing with the computer.

BradfordCamaro · 03-11-2016, 06:50 PM

I get the 'shift to fourth' message from time to time. More so becuase I am still learning the clutch / accelerator. And it still cool with dirty sandy roads, being overly cautious not to let the power come on to abruptly. At times I do rev to high, When making a turn at an intersection and it comes on.....that sucks when it does.

Oh well, in a couple months when its warm and dry and it comes on and bugs me I will consider bypassing it.

I have had a dealer plug in and disable a feature on a car, no trouble or issue.
I will check with my dealer if its possible.

01-26-2016, 03:31 PM	#1
drivingagain Drives: 2015 Tiger XCX,2016 Camaro 1SS,LBZ! Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 1,311	Skip Shift SO I have never had the skip shift and remember hearing about it in the 4th gen camaro's and thinking what a hassle it must be. Fast forward to the 6th gen I have now and I do not understand the big deal now. During the break in I shifted through each gear to let the car use the rpms to break in and no lugging. The other question I have is when my car shows skip shift on the dash I can put it into 3rd gear rather than 4th. I found out because when I am barely on the gas I naturally go from 1st to 3rd to 5th then 6th gear. If I am already rolling rather than a dead stop I just use 2nd. To me the natural shifting of the car does not really effect me with the skip shift. Anyone else notice you do not have to go from 1st to 4th when the shift light on the dash comes on or is this not common? Edit: Maybe another reason for not really bothered by skip shift is I live in Florida flat higher speed roads. In this part of FL anyways.

02-15-2016, 01:16 PM	#2
crankaholic Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 771	The newer skip sift algorithm is much better than what was on the T56 transmissions (4th gen)... that one used to drive me mad. However, I'm still occasionally forced to make a 1-4 during a tight low-speed turn. I put on the eliminator just for that - plus it's like $15 and 15 minutes of your time and you never have to deal with it again. __________________

03-07-2016, 10:22 AM	#7
Curr Probably doesn't like you Drives: 2022 WCT ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Boston-ish Posts: 1,252	Just so you people know, it locks you out of second, but doesn't "force" you in 4th. If it does catch you, just shift into 3rd. __________________ I hope the 6th gen Camaro has a melodious horn trumpet. I'll tootel it at the ladies, yelling out "Hi hi." - RenegadeXR كافر ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ железобетонное очко Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur. There is an unequal amount of good and bad in most things, the trick is to work out the ratio and act accordingly.

03-11-2016, 06:50 PM	#13
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,012	I get the 'shift to fourth' message from time to time. More so becuase I am still learning the clutch / accelerator. And it still cool with dirty sandy roads, being overly cautious not to let the power come on to abruptly. At times I do rev to high, When making a turn at an intersection and it comes on.....that sucks when it does. Oh well, in a couple months when its warm and dry and it comes on and bugs me I will consider bypassing it. I have had a dealer plug in and disable a feature on a car, no trouble or issue. I will check with my dealer if its possible. __________________

02-18-2016, 06:41 PM	#3
JRS Drives: 16 camaro M6/ 18 ZL1 camaro A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: MD/PA LINE Posts: 202	I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH MY 2SS MAKING ME SKIP SHIFT UNTIL IT GOT OVER 1000 MILES ON IT AND NOW IT FORCES YOU TO SHIFT TO 4TH. I TRIED FORCING IT INTO 2ND AND 3RD BUT IT WILL ONLY LET ME GO INTO 4TH. THIS WAS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT SO I'M GOING TO PUT A SKIP SHIFT ELIMATOR ON.

03-05-2016, 08:44 AM	#4
priusowners Drives: 67LincolnConv 71Cuda 65CorvairConv Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Philly Posts: 120	I didn't notice any messages until we got over 100 & some miles (now at 161) Since new, 6th seems to be the only gear locked out at slow speeds & Reverse (thankfully) when moving. Now we get the message but so far it has NO EFFECT on gear selection. Same with hill-assist--after failing to initialize it--now it's suddenly on-line. Yet the OM states that trying to select a gear other than 4th when in skip-shift mode can cause damage--I'm clueless!

03-05-2016, 07:00 PM	#6
priusowners Drives: 67LincolnConv 71Cuda 65CorvairConv Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Philly Posts: 120	Thanks for the INFO--now I'm less clueless. My eyes are 98% outside the car so I rarely see the info messages. Re CAGS-- I bought the Vette "smart fuse" & have a question: What's CGM stand for in the engine fuse box position F47? OM says, "not used" Thanks again, Jeff

03-09-2016, 02:08 AM	#11
RobbyRocketz Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Mosaic Black Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 154	Where does one purchase the eliminator from? Does it trigger a cell when used? And couldn't the feature be turned off with a tuner?

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