09-29-2022, 07:45 PM | #29 |
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Yes I have set my fastest laps with everything off at tracks that I am familiar with and comfortable taking the extra risk but it might be harder to do that in a ZLE due to the extra horsepower making it easier to oversteer with everything off compared to the SS 1LE. Also the ZLE has PTM calibrated for the SC3R tires rather than the calibration for SC3 tires on the SS 1LE so PTM Race holds you back more on 100 treadwear tires in the SS 1LE than it would in the ZLE.
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09-29-2022, 08:24 PM | #30 |
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Ken did randy do a better time than u in your car at the ridge?
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09-29-2022, 09:48 PM | #31 |
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09-29-2022, 09:50 PM | #32 |
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The VIR Lightning Lap guys from Car and Driver said the same thing. Fastest laps were done with electronics completely off.
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09-29-2022, 10:08 PM | #33 | ||
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I won't even get started on the C8 (Stingray). What a major letdown. Like a hot girl with a fatty but can't twerk on the "D". Those cars really can't finish a turn. There are a handful of fast guys out there on them who can ride around the flaws but the vast majority I've seen on track are very slow. there are more videos on YouTube about the "Corvette Guy who wouldn't Wave me by" than ever before. Quote:
I won't debate the fact that many will go faster in an SS than a ZLE because it's absolutely true. No argument there whatsoever. However, that comes down to one's personal abilities (or lack thereof) to exploit the inherit advantages dialed into the ZLE from the factory. If ZL1+911 feels that he will go faster in an SS, then yeah, maybe he's right and he will. That ultimately comes down to his ability and comfort level. Just don't chalk it up to the idea that the SS somehow has something that the ZLE lacks. That simply is not the case. Carry the hell on! |
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09-29-2022, 10:50 PM | #34 |
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Thanks for the perspective on the Cayman and C8. For the Cayman the GTS or GT4 would be the only real choices. Even the GT4 isn't crazy fast but lots of people put it near the top for driving experience. On the C8 I have a hard time believing GM screwed up that bad if you get Z51 + magride. Hopefully something bars and an alignment could compensate for? The BRZ is actually interesting as it's crazy fast at autox, a STX car with the new RE71RS averages over 1.6g and raw times SS cars this season. The price leaves room for adding power... On SLE vs ZLE I'm not claiming the SLE is faster anywhere except maybe autox. Just pointing out the differences in power output aren't massive and you can have a lighter NA car with the same power, it just costs nearly $10k for cam, heads and tune. At that point it should compete with a stock ZLE, especially if you also do some minor suspension mods and an ideal alignment. You can end up with a bit better power to weight vs a ZLE, but of course the ZLE has higher limits still with the LT4's fully forged internals. Also the ZLE's M6 is geared very differently vs the SLE, likely a significant factor in making it faster.
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I like the BRZ/GR86. Really cool for autocross and cars you can have fun with without the risk of going to jail. I play with the idea of getting one in manual to use as a daily. The artificial exhaust note is kinda of cheesy and the car really is dog slow on track, but it's a nice little backroad blaster. |
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09-30-2022, 07:03 AM | #37 | |
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C8 is a bit faster in straights due to more HP, lower weight, better Cd and DCT trans.
718 GT4 is a bit faster overall but a much better sports car overall than any Camaro 981 GT4 is about the same as a Camaro SS1LE at the track but again a much better sports car overall. IMO |
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09-30-2022, 08:16 AM | #38 |
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^^Not super great examples good driving. The standard C8 has potential, but needs a few upgrades to make it happen. (AP brake kit and MCS suspension as an example)
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That 7:16 Nurburgring time says otherwise. Haha |
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10-01-2022, 12:29 PM | #41 |
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I believe the gt4 is sock with cup 2s. If you put cup 2 on 1le, it will be faster
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10-01-2022, 02:45 PM | #42 |
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Throttle House found that Cup 2 tires on the SS 1LE were only 0.04 seconds faster than the stock SC3s on the same short track but the laps were 2 years apart with a different ambient temperature so it was not a perfect comparison.
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