01-25-2022, 08:21 AM | #183 |
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Correct, but if GM is offering it only for 48 months, and Chrysler is offering for 72 months, then that should give you an idea of where they line up. I suspect that Chrysler will allow a lower "sub-prime" rating as an entry level, while GM may not allow a lower credit rate. On the flip side, Chrysler credit may figure that the Challenger/Charger are easier to sell at auction, and are ok with lending to sub prime lenders in the event of repossession. Out of all the reviews that I'm seeing, I have yet to see any review give the Charger/Challenger the nod over its rivals. They all seem to acknowledge that in top trim, the Charger/Challenger does win in a straight line, but in other driving dynamics, comes up short. I guess if you are only concerned with straight line performance and bragging rights at the bar, the Charger/Challenger are for you. I personally like the whole package when it comes to driving, which is why I chose the Camaro. There's really no wrong choice out of the 3, which is the beauty of competition, each brand makes a compelling argument as to why you should choose them over their rivals. |
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People don't buy the Charger or Challenger for it's driving dynamics, that's for sure lol.
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Actually it is easier to get GM 0% than Chrysler Capitol.
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Ok, maybe not 5 years ago.
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Hotlap anything from say the last couple of years LOL
Nothing like that is happening north of the border, the hoops that you have to jump through, there is no getting around.
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Seems pretty straightforward. While both Dodge and GM will finance subprime loans, GM limits their subprime loans to entry level vehicles. Dodge will subprime finance a ****ing Hellcat. If we wanted we could probably extrapolate something based off the marketing and key demographics each manufacturer targets. Ignoring the looks of the Chargers/Challengers/Camaro/Mustang and going purely off of the objectively measurable aspects, it's easy to see that Chargers/Challengers cater to an ignorant market base. With the exception of straight line speed (the easiest and cheapest to modify for aftermarket), Chargers/Challengers don't win in any other performance metric. It's essentially a 2005 chassis with a modern engine shoved into it. Can't even qualify it as a modern transmission because it doesn't offer anything modern. It's pretty easy to see if your entire marketing strategy is to capitalize on ignorant customers by manipulating their emotions over how the vehicle looks on the outside, you're going to end up with an objectively worse group of buyers. Hell, I'm willing to bet there's more people who own Challengers/Chargers who couldn't care less about anything performance related about their car but it "looks good". How many Camaro owners can you say have that same mindset? I've dated a stripper who was definitely that way, but other than that most Camaro owners I've ran into know exactly what they have, what performance reasons drove them to buy it, and why they chose it out of the 3 options available to them. The Charger/Challenger is essentially a poverty man's Corvette. Ghetto status symbol vs suburban status symbol. |
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challenger came in first, by 500 cars, for the first time in it's history during a chip shortage. I'm not wondering why.
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I really liked Challengers in the past and wanted one, but I just couldn't see myself doing it anymore after owning an RX-8. Handling matters to me. That said, there are people who know exactly what they are getting with a Challenger and they are okay with that. They specifically want a boaty car with a big V8. Nothing wrong with that. Challenger's and Charger's chassis may be a rehashed old Mercedes E-Class chassis, but their superchargers are also better than what Ford and GM use on GT500 and ZL1. Twin screw is better in every way than Roots except for cost. Also, realize that Mustang is the one that has the reputation of crashing into crowds at C&C, not Challenger/Charger. Every car crowd has a negative stereotype if you look hard enough.
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