10-15-2021, 10:10 AM | #1 |
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Talk me out of Hooker headers.
I don't have access to a lift so the 2 piece hooker headers are appealing. What are the major drawbacks here? If installation wasn't an issue, I would probably go ARH.
- End state I plan on keeping cats, and something keeping the NPP in the back if that matters at all. Thanks! |
10-15-2021, 10:15 AM | #2 |
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While i'm sure they give good head, the likelihood of disease is really high, plus if you don't pay them right away they have this dude waiting outside for you!
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10-15-2021, 10:36 AM | #3 | |
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BTW you don't need $2200.00 headers on the car I have had TSP on for 3 years over 1000 rwhp no problems yet still look great! these stupid MF's spending more on headers than the fuel system that's what you need to be saving for! All because the mark up on a 2200 set vs a 700 set is more.
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10-15-2021, 10:40 AM | #4 |
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10-15-2021, 11:36 AM | #5 | |
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Thanks for the feedback, TSP wasn't even on my radar. I wanted to be sure I didn't run into any fitment problems, so only really considered a couple common ones. |
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10-15-2021, 11:37 AM | #6 |
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10-15-2021, 02:32 PM | #7 |
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Headers can be done on jackstands, not too bad. Installed mine from the bottom and took a little fenagaling but got them in. Passenger side is a little more of a hassle but definitely doable on jacks
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10-15-2021, 03:33 PM | #8 | |
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10-15-2021, 04:02 PM | #9 | |
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I honestly would go with Kooks or CSP's Stainless Works made headers. I have owned both Kooks and ARH and Kooks by far have had the best fitment. For the price, ARH leave a lot to be desired in how well they fit. And both Kooks and CSP have options to use the factory mid pipe so you can still use the NPP. |
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10-16-2021, 10:32 AM | #10 |
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after installing headers on a coyote s550 where the first instruction was "remove windshield wipers", dad and i were both amazed and relieved at the ease of install on the CSP headers.
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10-16-2021, 12:16 PM | #11 |
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I installed my 2" TSP headers on jack stands in my garage. Driver's side went in from the bottom and the only problem I had was it wanted to fall out, true! Point is driver's side was stupid simple. Passenger side went in from the top. I loosened the nut on the motor mount and lifted the motor maybe two inches and it slid in easy. The only problem I had was reinstalling the dipstick tube. I didn't pay attention when I took it out - so, pay careful attention so you know how it goes back in!!! No fitment issues what so ever. They have been in for about three thousand miles and still look great.
There ya go - ditch the Hooker headers!!
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10-16-2021, 12:45 PM | #12 |
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As far as fitment I've heard ARH is the best for fitment clearance over many models, but I've also probably heard just as many people say CSP gives the easiest install on the Camaro. Can't go wrong with either, or the Holley I suppose, but personally I think the CSP are more expensive than necessary. You spend a day installing it and years driving the car after the fact so in my eyes a little longer install time isn't a big deal as long as it's not burning up your lines. I would much rather save cost on the headers by going with TSP then put money saved toward a new tune, but that's me.
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10-16-2021, 12:53 PM | #13 |
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I installed my ARH 1 7/8” coated headers by myself but on a 4 post lift. Wasn’t all that hard to get them in.
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10-16-2021, 04:12 PM | #14 |
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Wall thickness matters also. I hear substantially less ticking/exhaust noise from when i had kooks in compared to the csp headers.
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