vs 2018 Mustang - Page 83

SpeedIsLife · 05-31-2018, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadicus

Do track shoes count as remaining stock or should this dad race be barefoot? I'm thinking barefoot.

Best not allow him any Gatorade or anything either..water only.

newmoon · 06-01-2018, 11:17 AM

So much to the theory that the only reason the Mustang was doing well in sales was it was cheaper, and that the increased price of 2018 models would tank it. Also Challenger still continues to do very well in year 10 of the present Generation. Where are the Camaro numbers?

Mustang
May 2018 - 8739
May 2017 - 7895

Challenger
May 2018 - 7005
May 2017 - 6989

FastCarFanBoy · 06-01-2018, 12:27 PM

GM releases sales figures quarterly now iirc. So next month we should see something.

torqueaddict · 06-01-2018, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

So much to the theory that the only reason the Mustang was doing well in sales was it was cheaper, and that the increased price of 2018 models would tank it. Also Challenger still continues to do very well in year 10 of the present Generation. Where are the Camaro numbers?

Mustang
May 2018 - 8739
May 2017 - 7895

Challenger
May 2018 - 7005
May 2017 - 6989

How many of those are GTs? Almost every Mustang I see is a non-gt. Plus, how many are 2018s? Unless I'm mistaken in which case someone correct me. No break down. Lots of 2017s still for sale.

If those are mostly 2018s, the Ford service departments are probably celebrating. Big raises for everyone!!

FastCarFanBoy · 06-01-2018, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by torqueaddict

How many of those are GTs? Almost every Mustang I see is a non-gt. Plus, how many are 2018s? Unless I'm mistaken in which case someone correct me. No break down. Lots of 2017s still for sale.

If those are mostly 2018s, the Ford service departments are probably celebrating. Big raises for everyone!!

It's gonna be ok brother.

torqueaddict · 06-02-2018, 08:51 AM

More disappointment:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=104576

But right on point with other runs that have been seen. Mods on the way.

HeaterMan · 06-02-2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by torqueaddict

More disappointment:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=104576

But right on point with other runs that have been seen. Mods on the way.

I don't think 12.20@114 in a 15 mph head wind and 1480 ft air density is too disappointing.

Martinjlm · 06-02-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by torqueaddict

More disappointment:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=104576

But right on point with other runs that have been seen. Mods on the way.

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Originally Posted by HeaterMan

I don't think 12.20@114 in a 15 mph head wind and 1480 ft air density is too disappointing.

That plus two others in the same session ran 12.0 and 11.8.

Let’s face it, Ford has delivered performance in the 2018 Mustang GT. Good for them. They have some quality issues they have to address and I’m sure they will.

FastCarFanBoy · 06-02-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by torqueaddict

More disappointment:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=104576

But right on point with other runs that have been seen. Mods on the way.

Disappointed the car is laying down for some reason? Sure. But a 12.2 with the car laying down is nothing to be disappointed at.

Have you had your heavy hitter out to the track at all?

torqueaddict · 06-02-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

That plus two others in the same session ran 12.0 and 11.8.

Let’s face it, Ford has delivered performance in the 2018 Mustang GT. Good for them. They have some quality issues they have to address and I’m sure they will.

I just saw his follow-up post with the other times. So, if there was no headwind and sea-level dense air, the 'stock' guy that pulled off an 11.8 would have probably done an 11.6 or 7? Even the hero runs weren't that good. I'll come right back here and eat crow when I see that with my own eyes at a test and tune.

Yes, Ford delivered performance with the 2018s, and I believe sub 12s are doable stock, but it's not easy, and even modded cars have a hard time pulling it off.

As far as the quality issues being fixed, if their track record is any indication, it ain't happening any time soon.

torqueaddict · 06-02-2018, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Disappointed the car is laying down for some reason? Sure. But a 12.2 with the car laying down is nothing to be disappointed at.

Have you had your heavy hitter out to the track at all?

When I rack up some more miles, I'll probably run it to see what it can do.

Wild One · 06-02-2018, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Disappointed the car is laying down for some reason? Sure. But a 12.2 with the car laying down is nothing to be disappointed at.

Have you had your heavy hitter out to the track at all?

Now I'll move on.

Well we know some things are the same.....

HeaterMan · 06-02-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by torqueaddict

I just saw his follow-up post with the other times. So, if there was no headwind and sea-level dense air, the 'stock' guy that pulled off an 11.8 would have probably done an 11.6 or 7? Even the hero runs weren't that good. I'll come right back here and eat crow when I see that with my own eyes at a test and tune.

Yes, Ford delivered performance with the 2018s, and I believe sub 12s are doable stock, but it's not easy, and even modded cars have a hard time pulling it off.

As far as the quality issues being fixed, if their track record is any indication, it ain't happening any time soon.

have you bothered to look at the Camaro/ problems/ warranty issues forum in this Camaro forum? the 6th gen Camaro isn't exactly immune to issues. in fact it appears there's plenty.

torqueaddict · 06-03-2018, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HeaterMan

have you bothered to look at the Camaro/ problems/ warranty issues forum in this Camaro forum? the 6th gen Camaro isn't exactly immune to issues. in fact it appears there's plenty.

I look at it everyday. A lot of necro, speculative and newbie posts. Some legit, others, not so much. This is pretty much what you'd see in any forum with a dedicated problem section.

No, the Camaro is not immune from issues and I'll never make that ridiculous claim either. But I will say, as of right now, the nature and severity of the issues the plaque it aren't the same.

What the 2018 Mustangs are going through is severe. And it's not just a few either. It seems to be a culmination of poor engineering, bad choices and corner cutting. And it started way before the 2018s, but was much more subtle.

06-01-2018, 11:17 AM	#1150
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	So much to the theory that the only reason the Mustang was doing well in sales was it was cheaper, and that the increased price of 2018 models would tank it. Also Challenger still continues to do very well in year 10 of the present Generation. Where are the Camaro numbers? Mustang May 2018 - 8739 May 2017 - 7895 Challenger May 2018 - 7005 May 2017 - 6989 __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

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FastCarFanBoy Banned Drives: 2013 GB GT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 954	GM releases sales figures quarterly now iirc. So next month we should see something.

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torqueaddict Drives: Tesla M3 LR-AWD [Former 1SS owner] Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Miami Posts: 950	More disappointment: https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=104576 But right on point with other runs that have been seen. Mods on the way.

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