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People will believe what they want and pay attention to only the facts that prove their point.
Personally I think magazine comparisons are reliable because they're same day same location and multiple attpts at getting the best time. Overall best times vs overall best times have some merit. Stock vs stock they're comparable on acceleration. Chevy handles and drives way better, Ford is a better day to day car. |
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Same thing for the SS. Instead of the 1LE how about a drag package. Which do you think would sell better?
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As for Chevy’s approach to the SS, I think it is spot on. SS is an awesome straight line car. If you want a drag monster it is a few tweaks away from that. If you want a track car, SS can handle that well, but if you want track monster, option up to a 1LE.
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The 1/4 mile track is more easily approachable. It doesn't cost much, and you don't really have to mod much of anything as a beginner. It's just much easier to enter into the sport. |
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But there is no question that the Mustang crowd would love a drag package. I think that manufacturers haven't liked to go that route because of warranty issues that may occur. GM will warranty your car as long as it is not a timed event. 1/4 mile is a timed event. But it seems as though all that is changing. Especially with the Demon being built from the ground up as a 1/4 mile car. I think we will see more 1/4 mile track options on these cars as time goes on. |
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The magazines history with the Camaro is kind of a mess.
For the 2010 MY (in 2009) they praised it. For the 2011 MY (2010) they started kind of ripping on it (in fact one magazine actually placed the SRT8 Challenger over it) and in 2012 the bloom was very much off the rose. 2013 kind of changed it back to the stronger side with the 1LE and ZL1, etc..but it never quite got back to the heaping praise it had in 2010. |
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It's because except for the 1LE/ZL1 and Z/28..the later years of the Gen5 Camaro were just used as a whipping post for the auto rags. The Camaro became a dramatically better car in 2013, but like you said..they either ignored it or thought it was just some magical transformation. It's part of the reason I don't give ANY of the rags the time of day..because they're so fickle and flighty. |
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I seriously think Ford got caught with their pants down and had to scramble to get the 18 GT up to snuff. They brought out the S550 with the intention of beating or keeping up with the 5th Gen Camaro and they didn't expect that GM would be swinging for the fences with the 6th Gen Camaro. Which is why the 18s need to be a home run. |
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I think Ford and GM took different approaches to track capability, and maybe Ford misread GM’s strategy a little bit. Ford strategy is...”You want a track car? We got that. But it’s gonna cost you a pretty penny. Here’s the GT350”. GM’s approach is ...”You want a track car? It’s called Camaro. Oh...you’re serious about this...check the 1LE box. Oh...you live and breathe this stuff...let me show you the ZL1”. For cars with relatively low volume (anything under 100k), GM probably over-delivered on the track capable variants, whereas Ford just made sure they had one. A damn good one (GT350), but still, only one.` I’ll go one step further and say that with Mark Reuss and Dan Amann positioned at the top of the company, GM has a couple of track rats that understand how trackability translates to everyday fun to drive (not to be confused with everyday comfortable to drive).
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