[Heatseeker8]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Plenty of options for that...Whipple, Maggie, Edelbrock, Procharger... . Just gotta decide if you need the warranty and/or ready-to-go nature of a ZL1.

Every shop I’ve called and people on here/ Facebook, more less scared me to the point of not wanting to put boost or gas to it.
Was originally just going to Maggie 2300 it with bolt ons.
Still always going back To looking at zl1 . Just a awesome car!

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Heatseeker8

Every shop I’ve called and people on here/ Facebook, more less scared me to the point of not wanting to put boost or gas to it.
Was originally just going to Maggie 2300 it with bolt ons.
Still always going back To looking at zl1 . Just a awesome car!

This tells me that if you can afford one, just go ZL1. They run max. 9.4 lbs boost (not high by aftermarket blower standards) and can be made quicker but you may drive one and think they are quick enough (they feel fast stock). Plus the LT4 is stronger than an LT1.

To me, if you're always looking back to ZL1s, you'll still feel that way even w/ a supercharged SS - it's just not the real thing. The ZL1 is the complete package. You might as well get the real deal. A supercharged SS is worth only as much as a stock SS, whereas a ZL1 is worth a ZL1.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Heatseeker8

Every shop I’ve called and people on here/ Facebook, more less scared me to the point of not wanting to put boost or gas to it.
Was originally just going to Maggie 2300 it with bolt ons.
Still always going back To looking at zl1 . Just a awesome car!

I have that exact setup, not even many bolt-ons. Not sure why shops are scared, this is a well trodden and rock stable path. The car is powerful and drives absolutely awesome, although I will say I upgraded the wheels and tires, too, along with a Soler LT5 throttle body and the BMR rear cradle lockout kit.

However, I'd say if you have the money and are just thinking about a simple factory setup that you can leave alone, get a ZL1. It seems you're eyeballing the "top dog" trim in your heart anyway, and if that's true, that small voice will never go away unless you do it.

If you can swing it and don't mind the refreshed rear, definitely buy/order a new one on account of the more modern electronics, but if you're okay with a used one with low miles, the upgrade cost will be roughly the same as it was on day 1 when you bought the SS.

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by Heatseeker8

Every shop I’ve called and people on here/ Facebook, more less scared me to the point of not wanting to put boost or gas to it.
Was originally just going to Maggie 2300 it with bolt ons.
Still always going back To looking at zl1 . Just a awesome car!

I was in your position not too long ago.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=578242&page=6

I know your initial question pertained only to 1/4 mile performance, but there is so much more to the ZL1 than just the fuel & SC upgrades. If you are a seasoned drag racer you’ll be able to do just fine. I have two things, hopefully, planned to do this year: A trip to Road America & to the strip. These cars are more centered around the road course, but they go in a straight line pretty well.

Your SS is very sharp, & low miles so you should get good bank for it! Some 20 & 21’s around me for a little more than what I paid for mine a few months ago. (Employee pricing, less options, etc) I still wouldn’t want them due to not being able to tune the TCM on 20+. Food for thought if you plan on going crazy with it in the future.

[JonDaddy82]

Hell, there's TONS of bolt-on Pray and GPI SS's that are faster than my ZL1, just depends.

[Snakebt6]

ZLE A10 all stock..air box, tires, etc all factory. Only Dot 4 and 15 50 oil (as Im a road course guy.)

They had a test and tune day so I thought it would be fun to go to. I ran an 11.8 at 122 in my second run.

This was my first attempt with this car and first time at the drag strip in about 5yrs.

[GreenZLE]

Depending on the temps, my 2020 1LE with an A-10 runs 11.2 @ 124mph at 55F to 11.5 @ 120MPH at 90F. Stock other than R888R's.

[EOD_Tech Infidel]

Originally Posted by Heatseeker8

That’s the problem. Love the car with 2ss options and magnaride and npp. Also had ground affects on build sheet
But definitely wanting something faster.

I had a 2017 Camaro 2SS every option except sunroof. Great car! I now have a 2018 ZL1 and it's better in every category accept fuel economy. I've had several high horsepower Camaros and Corvettes and the ZL1 is by far the best handling/ performing and trouble free car I've ever owned.

[Choda]

bone stock I see mid low 11s

[Jjmongelli@aol.com]

Originally Posted by Heatseeker8

Guys I’m debating selling my 2018 camaro 2ss with 5300 miles to upgrade to zl1
I have looked for 3 days at zl1 results/ time/ da / tire compound ect
It seems these cars are all over the map. Some saying that they can run 11.1-11.2 at 127 stock. Next bunch says they run 11.5-12. 120-122.
I’d be strictly going to zl1 for Performace gains and would be pissed if car ran anywhere near 11-5-12.0.
My ss runs 12.1-12.2 stock with Roto fab .
Anyone wish they built there ss instead of putting down the cash for zl1?
Thanks for opinions in advance

My best was 11.2 - 11.4 on my last track day ! 2019 ZL1 1LE

[BMWM.D.]

I had a similar dilemma. Buy a SS 1LE and supercharge it, or go with a ZL1. Since I’d done a bunch of pretty serious stock bottom end builds in the past, and decided I needed a break, I bought a ZL1.

Headers, intake, and my self tuning resulted in a 10.79 @ nearly 133 mph the one time I had it at the track in about 1000 ft DA. I’ve done a blower pulley since, and I think it’ll do a 10.5x @ 135. Should be pretty easy to put back to stock if I ever want to, and I have no fear of it breaking like was always in the back of my mind with engines not built for boost.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by BMWM.D.

I had a similar dilemma. Buy a SS 1LE and supercharge it, or go with a ZL1. Since I’d done a bunch of pretty serious stock bottom end builds in the past, and decided I needed a break, I bought a ZL1.

Headers, intake, and my self tuning resulted in a 10.79 @ nearly 133 mph the one time I had it at the track in about 1000 ft DA. I’ve done a blower pulley since, and I think it’ll do a 10.5x @ 135. Should be pretty easy to put back to stock if I ever want to, and I have no fear of it breaking like was always in the back of my mind with engines not built for boost.

The SS is capable of those times easily with a PD supercharger and can be just as reliable. Start pushing for 9's then things change a bit. Honestly the LT4 really isn't that much more capable in the end depending on the power adder used. Yes it has better heads, crank, and pistons but the limiting factor is it's thrust bearing. If you want a stock LT4 to survive big power then you should consider switching to turbos which takes a substantial load off the crank.

The ZL1 is still a better car all around either way, I am just pointing out the real capability differences between the LT1 and LT4 in stock form. I would say the LT1 can be pretty reliable to 750whp in the right hands and the LT4 850whp. If they had a better Thrust bearing design that could tolerate a PD or Centri supercharger putting a huge load on the crank snout then 1k whp easily. Everybody though the LT4 was capable of huge power in the beginning when LPE made 1400hp with turbos on a SBE LT4, but the key again was the Turbos and taking the load off the crank.

[BMWM.D.]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

The SS is capable of those times easily with a PD supercharger and can be just as reliable. Start pushing for 9's then things change a bit. Honestly the LT4 really isn't that much more capable in the end depending on the power adder used. Yes it has better heads, crank, and pistons but the limiting factor is it's thrust bearing. If you want a stock LT4 to survive big power then you should consider switching to turbos which takes a substantial load off the crank.

The ZL1 is still a better car all around either way, I am just pointing out the real capability differences between the LT1 and LT4 in stock form. I would say the LT1 can be pretty reliable to 750whp in the right hands and the LT4 850whp. If they had a better Thrust bearing design that could tolerate a PD or Centri supercharger putting a huge load on the crank snout then 1k whp easily. Everybody though the LT4 was capable of huge power in the beginning when LPE made 1400hp with turbos on a SBE LT4, but the key again was the Turbos and taking the load off the crank.

Yeah, I’m not claiming my car is insanely fast or anything. But for a few easy bolt ons and essentially stock reliability, I’m really happy with how it turned out. And at least for me, I see zero need for more power on a street driven car unless I was planning to run around with my drag pack on all the time. Doing that kind of defeats the purpose of a car like a ZL1, to me anyway.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by BMWM.D.

Yeah, I’m not claiming my car is insanely fast or anything. But for a few easy bolt ons and essentially stock reliability, I’m really happy with how it turned out. And at least for me, I see zero need for more power on a street driven car unless I was planning to run around with my drag pack on all the time. Doing that kind of defeats the purpose of a car like a ZL1, to me anyway.

Agreed... A 2650 swap, some bolt-ons(TB/Big gulp/Cat delete pipes), fuel system to support some E, and tire is about all I would do with a ZL1 and call it good. Great cars for sure!!