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Old 02-26-2021, 06:25 PM   #43
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If you have time, could you post some close-up pics of the inside of the filter? I'm curious how it compares to the other two PF64 part #s.

I looked. I also have a 12696048 for comparison, and could tell no differences between the two on the inside, other than there is some visible adhesive between the spring/valve assembly and the core on the 12706595. Gaskets appear to be identical, shells look to have identical dimensions as well.
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Old 02-26-2021, 08:22 PM   #44
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I looked. I also have a 12696048 for comparison, and could tell no differences between the two on the inside, other than there is some visible adhesive between the spring/valve assembly and the core on the 12706595. Gaskets appear to be identical, shells look to have identical dimensions as well.
I have one more of the old ones with part number 12640445 that preceded 12696048 and looked much sturdier. Not sure if there are any of those left in Walmart or elsewhere, I'll probably have to go with 12706595 once this is spoken for.

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Old 03-31-2021, 08:20 PM   #45
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I wanted to resurect this thread.
I ordered an AC Delco PF64 and a Wix along with oil from Rock auto. I wanted to see how they compared. Prices were the best I found.
But I screwed up and received a box of 12 of the Delco filters. Looks like I ordered the wrong packaging.
Ive read things about the GDI engines and particulates building in the oil.
So back in the early 90s when synthetics were coming out I owned trucks with Cat engines. As they were trying to justify the cost of the synthetics they were increasing oil change intervals.
One of the stipulations for extending the intervals was that you changed out filters at standard miles.
My questions is has anyone swapped out filters at half their oil change interval?
Since I have a lifetime supply of filters here I am contemplating 5,000 mile oil changes and 2500 mile filter swaps.
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Old 03-31-2021, 10:17 PM   #46
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I wanted to resurect this thread.
I ordered an AC Delco PF64 and a Wix along with oil from Rock auto. I wanted to see how they compared. Prices were the best I found.
But I screwed up and received a box of 12 of the Delco filters. Looks like I ordered the wrong packaging.
Ive read things about the GDI engines and particulates building in the oil.
So back in the early 90s when synthetics were coming out I owned trucks with Cat engines. As they were trying to justify the cost of the synthetics they were increasing oil change intervals.
One of the stipulations for extending the intervals was that you changed out filters at standard miles.
My questions is has anyone swapped out filters at half their oil change interval?
Since I have a lifetime supply of filters here I am contemplating 5,000 mile oil changes and 2500 mile filter swaps.
You do you, but I don't think my oil (and filter) is going to see anything longer than a 2,500 mile interval on my 2020 2SS... Granted, it currently isn't my daily driver, but eventually it probably will be... My motto "Oil & filters are CHEAP, engines and components are NOT..." I changed Oil, filter AND DIFF Fluid at 505 miles & 1,500 miles, plan to do Oil and Filter at 4,000 (car will be ~15 months old at that point) and at 6,500 will do it again (and change DIFF fluid again as well).
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You're not wrong but you're also just pissing money down the drain, too.
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:54 PM   #48
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You're not wrong but you're also just pissing money down the drain, too.
I do all the work myself so only the cost of materials...
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Old 05-30-2022, 05:19 PM   #49
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You mean PN 12674698? That's what I use

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My dealership said that this is the high performance race oil filter for LT4's but it's not listed in any of the perforamnce manuals that I can see and my GM service department had been putting on the 12706595 (and older variants) that is apparently used on even the 2.0L Camaro's...

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Apparently the new updated AC Delco number is 12699847
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Old 05-30-2022, 10:15 PM   #51
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You can always go bigger ! PF63E.
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Old 05-31-2022, 12:21 AM   #52
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You can always go bigger ! PF63.
No, it does not have the same bypass valve pressure that is made for the car… EDIT* or perhaps it does?
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Old 05-31-2022, 07:53 AM   #53
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The PF48/PF48E has a pressure specification of 15 PSI (100 kPa)

PF64/PF63E [GM 12690385] has a pressure specification of 22 PSI (150 kPa).

https://gm-techlink.com/?p=7627 - would seem to indicate that PF63E is 22psi variety.
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Old 05-31-2022, 07:31 PM   #54
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I just went UPF63R this weekend, lol. It BARELY fit. Good oil pressure so far.
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Old 05-31-2022, 09:24 PM   #55
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I wonder why they keep changing such a trivial part that costs less than $10, meaning their profit can't be more than a few dollars. What's the point? Even if they reduced total manufacturing cost to $0, this is a just a drop in the bucket, and judging from the descriptions and reviews, definitely not all changes were aimed at longevity and performance. This latest part number is at least the 5th or 6th revision since I bought my car in 2018...
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My guess is adapting to supply chain issues. Sometimes steel is cheaper, sometimes nylon is cheaper. Some changes for improved manufacturing efficiency - there was cut away in another forum thread I saw where bypass valve or spring was change steel to plastic or vice versa and another added hot glue to help secure bits in place during assembly.


Sucky part is keeping track of subtle changes in ACdelco part numbers - better off referencing the GM parts #.
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