Header install question - Page 3

Booher · 11-13-2019, 05:55 AM

I took it through a drive thru, that sound is definitely an exhaust leak. I also developed a rattle on the passenger side, I think its right after the cat, near the bend. So I have some more adjusting to do, yay.

L78toLT1 · 11-13-2019, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OVRKLL

So you had to remove the steering shaft too?

Yes, but that's literally a two minute job

Booher · 11-13-2019, 03:50 PM

I decided either mess with it for a couple hours, or just pay an exhaust shop an hour to get it all right. So, I have an appointment friday morning to get it fixed. Figured they do it all the time, should be able to slam it out. I'll give an update friday. I'm trying to install more parts this weekend, but we shall see, I'm spent not having any days off lol. Oh, and it threw the check engine light this morning, haha, idk why I was thinking it might not.

JCunningham · 11-14-2019, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dysan911

I must have been damn lucky or else American Racing Headers are just so much easier to install. I started with trying to drop my passenger side in from the top and it was sooooo close to going in but then I tried from the bottom and it slipped up in there on the first try and I did NOT even have to remove the starter. I just removed the starter heat shield temporarily. Drivers side went in from the top without an ounce of issue.

Are these 2in Headers or 1-7/8s? They look pretty big. IF 2in that might be the difference right there.

Good job on winning the battle though!.

lucky. I had to remove the pass side motor mount to get my ARH 1 7/8" in.

L78toLT1 · 11-14-2019, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

lucky. I had to remove the pass side motor mount to get my ARH 1 7/8" in.

I view header installation on these cars to be akin to those bent up nail puzzles you get at Cracker Barrell, the ones where you have to manipulate the nails in precisely the right manner to get them separated. I know that the dipstick is in this category. Before I pulled my motor for the latest rounds of mods, I practiced with the dipstick until I could almost snake it in blindfolded.

Booher · 11-14-2019, 04:49 PM

Lol right! For the dipstick it was awkward but had it in 5 minutes. Basically held the header in one hand, not bolted to anything, but in its place if that makes sense. Then I put the dipstick through the header and just pushed it in, and wiggled the header around and voila. I could have just gotten really lucky, but you never know it might have helped lol

JCunningham · 11-14-2019, 10:28 PM

see you're suppose to not disconnect the battery and then weld the dip stick to the starter.

enzia35 · 11-14-2019, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L78toLT1

I view header installation on these cars to be akin to those bent up nail puzzles you get at Cracker Barrell, the ones where you have to manipulate the nails in precisely the right manner to get them separated. I know that the dipstick is in this category. Before I pulled my motor for the latest rounds of mods, I practiced with the dipstick until I could almost snake it in blindfolded.

Oof, you might be right. I'm too retarded for those games. That's why I'll let someone else install them for me.

Booher · 11-15-2019, 05:59 AM

Rofl

OVRKLL · 11-18-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Booher

Lol right! For the dipstick it was awkward but had it in 5 minutes. Basically held the header in one hand, not bolted to anything, but in its place if that makes sense. Then I put the dipstick through the header and just pushed it in, and wiggled the header around and voila. I could have just gotten really lucky, but you never know it might have helped lol

So if you were holding the header in place, but not bolted in, why couldn't you have put a bold on and thread the dipstick in since the header would be in the same position as holding it?
Just trying to figure out what you did, so I know what I'll have to do!

6spdhyperblue · 11-18-2019, 04:51 PM

Because you need more wiggle room than the loose bolt would allow. What’s the rush in bolting up the header?

OVRKLL · 11-18-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Because you need more wiggle room than the loose bolt would allow. What’s the rush in bolting up the header?

No rush, but why hold the header if you can put a bolt on it?
However, I understand the more wiggle room reasoning.

OVRKLL · 11-18-2019, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Booher

I decided either mess with it for a couple hours, or just pay an exhaust shop an hour to get it all right. So, I have an appointment friday morning to get it fixed. Figured they do it all the time, should be able to slam it out. I'll give an update friday. I'm trying to install more parts this weekend, but we shall see, I'm spent not having any days off lol. Oh, and it threw the check engine light this morning, haha, idk why I was thinking it might not.

So how was the appointment with the shop?
Is it all good now!

Booher · 11-18-2019, 08:07 PM

Yup, all good, they just adjusted it a little, said it was really easy, I figured, I was just over it heh. Still has a little rattle, I'll attend to that after I get my tuning dealt with. At some points in my wiggling, the headers were further away from the motor than the any bolt would allow easily, at least from what I could tell. I did have a jack stand on the bottom of the collector holding some of the weight.

11-14-2019, 10:28 PM	#35
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	see you're suppose to not disconnect the battery and then weld the dip stick to the starter. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

11-13-2019, 05:55 AM	#29
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 979	I took it through a drive thru, that sound is definitely an exhaust leak. I also developed a rattle on the passenger side, I think its right after the cat, near the bend. So I have some more adjusting to do, yay.

11-13-2019, 03:50 PM	#31
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 979	I decided either mess with it for a couple hours, or just pay an exhaust shop an hour to get it all right. So, I have an appointment friday morning to get it fixed. Figured they do it all the time, should be able to slam it out. I'll give an update friday. I'm trying to install more parts this weekend, but we shall see, I'm spent not having any days off lol. Oh, and it threw the check engine light this morning, haha, idk why I was thinking it might not.

11-14-2019, 04:49 PM	#34
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 979	Lol right! For the dipstick it was awkward but had it in 5 minutes. Basically held the header in one hand, not bolted to anything, but in its place if that makes sense. Then I put the dipstick through the header and just pushed it in, and wiggled the header around and voila. I could have just gotten really lucky, but you never know it might have helped lol

11-15-2019, 05:59 AM	#37
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 979	Rofl

11-18-2019, 04:51 PM	#39
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,675	Because you need more wiggle room than the loose bolt would allow. What’s the rush in bolting up the header?

11-18-2019, 08:07 PM	#42
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 979	Yup, all good, they just adjusted it a little, said it was really easy, I figured, I was just over it heh. Still has a little rattle, I'll attend to that after I get my tuning dealt with. At some points in my wiggling, the headers were further away from the motor than the any bolt would allow easily, at least from what I could tell. I did have a jack stand on the bottom of the collector holding some of the weight.

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