[KILLA BEE]

Yes and yes again!!!!!!,!

[Rudy_1SS]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Y'all stop playing around get the secondary cat delete. YOU won't regret it would I do it again and then again afterwards hell yeah, do you have to worry about the emissions hell no that's only if you remove the primary cats. The pops and gurgles are twice as loud.....get er done guys!!!!!

I love me some pops and gurgles ! Ima head to the shop later this week, I like how the NPP sounds but it could stand to be louder

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Yes and yes again!!!!!!,!

Sound clips?!

[srossi5]

The sound is a 100% better imo worth the 200 bucks and i would do it again i cant justify spending almost 1500 on a new exhaust.

[srossi5]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zQR0oF_MMo Sound clip

[Rudy_1SS]

Originally Posted by srossi5

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zQR0oF_MMo Sound clip

Sounds good I'll see if I can get it done this weekend and I'll post a video
Thanks for the link

[2SSmurf]

Originally Posted by jaymsu

QTP has a kit specifically for 2016 Camaros
http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/500116/index.php
Their pre-selected location is right before the mufflers on our cars.

This is one of the system I'm interested in as well, but I'm concerned about winter driving - they recommend I take the cutouts off for harsh climate driving, and they seem to provide plate to block it off. I just don't know how easy/hard it would be to take them off every winter, without having lift.

I guess I didn't realize winter was a concern... it's welded in I think, so that's not feasible to remove. Why does winter matter? Salt getting into the pipes? I guess since winter is coming and it's in a different location than the secondary cats, I'll just do this mod later...

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Y'all stop playing around get the secondary cat delete. YOU won't regret it would I do it again and then again afterwards hell yeah, do you have to worry about the emissions hell no that's only if you remove the primary cats. The pops and gurgles are twice as loud.....get er done guys!!!!!

Haha this is by far the most convincing post about secondary cat delete



Another super noob question - what's the point of an X-pipe replacing the secondary cats? I'm assuming I should order one for the exhaust shop rather than hope they have some shop pipe laying around? lol...

[meilmarc]

Spent 80 bucks to get mine removed and was well worth it.

[Megahurtz]

I have to say, some of the pics I've seen look a little bit of a sketchy job. The pipe size looks smaller or angled wrong. If I were to get this done I would expect the shop to use the same diameter pipe as the stock exhaust, but use an expansion tool to flare out both ends and then slip them OVER the outside of the factory pipes. This would keep the flow straight, look better, and keep and welds/slag from being in the exhaust stream. Maybe I'm just OCD, but I know exactly how I would instruct the shop to do the work. Hope my babble makes sense lol.

[jaymsu]

Originally Posted by 2SSmurf

I guess I didn't realize winter was a concern... it's welded in I think, so that's not feasible to remove. Why does winter matter? Salt getting into the pipes? I guess since winter is coming and it's in a different location than the secondary cats, I'll just do this mod later...

Winter matters not because of the pipe but because of the cutout valve itself. They are not built / tested to OEM durability specs. The motor/wire/flap can fail with salt/snow/ice thrown at them and freeze repeatedly.

The actual cutout valve portion will be bolted on to the pipe, so I think what QTP is saying is 'unbolt those off the car, and put a cover on to cover the hole during winter'. I sent a message to QTP to confirm my understanding but didn't get any feedback. I do like the sound of QTP on my Prowler, but that thing will never see any cold weather. My Camaro is different story....

Also as for the location, secondary cat location seems bit tight for the e-cutout to be mounted, so if were to do cutout, I'll go with their recommended pre-select location.

[jaymsu]

Originally Posted by Megahurtz

I have to say, some of the pics I've seen look a little bit of a sketchy job. The pipe size looks smaller or angled wrong. If I were to get this done I would expect the shop to use the same diameter pipe as the stock exhaust, but use an expansion tool to flare out both ends and then slip them OVER the outside of the factory pipes. This would keep the flow straight, look better, and keep and welds/slag from being in the exhaust stream. Maybe I'm just OCD, but I know exactly how I would instruct the shop to do the work. Hope my babble makes sense lol.

Actually, I think that's a good point. However, it would be harder (not saying impossible... just harder) to find a shop that will do what you mentioned above, and price of this 'cheap mod' may go up a bit.

[Megahurtz]

Originally Posted by jaymsu

Actually, I think that's a good point. However, it would be harder (not saying impossible... just harder) to find a shop that will do what you mentioned above, and price of this 'cheap mod' may go up a bit.

Personally I think $150 to do it my way would be a fair price. It's less than $25 in parts to the shop and maybe one hour of labor at $65/hour. (The exhaust techs don't even make half of that). I might actually go get mine done soon so I'll post up pics of how I did mine.

[2SSmurf]

Originally Posted by jaymsu

Winter matters not because of the pipe but because of the cutout valve itself. They are not built / tested to OEM durability specs. The motor/wire/flap can fail with salt/snow/ice thrown at them and freeze repeatedly.

The actual cutout valve portion will be bolted on to the pipe, so I think what QTP is saying is 'unbolt those off the car, and put a cover on to cover the hole during winter'. I sent a message to QTP to confirm my understanding but didn't get any feedback. I do like the sound of QTP on my Prowler, but that thing will never see any cold weather. My Camaro is different story....

Also as for the location, secondary cat location seems bit tight for the e-cutout to be mounted, so if were to do cutout, I'll go with their recommended pre-select location.

Hmm, if that's the case, that would be easy maintenance. I could just do that whenever I throw on the snows.

[2SSmurf]

Anyone know if the AFM valves are important...?

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454705