10-04-2021, 08:39 PM | #57 | |
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10-04-2021, 09:05 PM | #58 |
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It would be suicide. Literally. The Big Three right now, together, in unison, are the ONLY things keeping V8 RWD high powered gasoline cars alive right now. If even one of them were to meet their demise then that would be a fatal blow to the industry. And right now as it is the industry is on it's dying breath and hanging by a string that is already lit on fire. So if Frod wants to be a bunch of idiots then by all means go right ahead. Threatening to kill off the Camaro would be like standing in a room full of gasoline with someone while holding a match and threatening to kill them by lighting it.
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Or, like seemingly everything else now it has to be 100% my way or the highway type of thing. Geesh. Theres profit to be made on gas cars so that angle about profitability isnt going to work here. Just crazy. Thats pretty funny, actually. It doesnt take much, does it? |
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10-05-2021, 07:16 AM | #60 | |
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10-05-2021, 09:02 AM | #61 |
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If everyone thinks that all the countries in this world will follow our lead going total EV by 2040 or whenever then we are in for a rude awakening in the USA! That’s all I have to say about that topic.
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10-05-2021, 09:41 AM | #63 |
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10-05-2021, 09:44 AM | #64 | |
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Probably right now are the salad days for one or the other. Either ICE will taper off to nothing over the next few years, or perhaps some may stay longer than 2035. If the powers that be make ICE and gasoline overly burdensome and arbitrarily impossible to own and use as we near 2035, then there may be some serious pushback against the obvious ploy to keep up the facade that we have a choice of some kind. Last edited by 90503; 10-05-2021 at 09:55 AM. |
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10-05-2021, 10:29 AM | #65 | |
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Porsche's CEO Oliver Blume has said the 911 will be ICE for a long time. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-time-if-ever I really hope Porsche synthetic fuel plant is Chile is a success! |
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10-05-2021, 10:45 AM | #66 |
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Lol, actually, it's the other way around. We're not the ones making the rules kid. And yes, we will follow THEIR lead if manufacturers want to remain profitable in a global market. Open your eyes. Because it sounds like you're the one who's in for a rude awakening.
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10-05-2021, 10:58 AM | #67 | |
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My quandary is will I be allowed to operate ICE in its current form. Many EU cities restrict what types (emission level) can be operated in cities now. If I keep my Aplha Camaro, will its operation be severely restricted? If I (as I planned) buy a 1970 Chevelle SS, will I be allowed to drive it. Saying ICE with electric assist will remain past 2030 doesn't mean our current cars won't be forced off the road. I've mentioned before, California already has done this with diesel engines where they forced pre 2010 out of the state.
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The real rude awakening is that they are all 2-3 years ahead of the US in making the switch.
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i thought the covid was supposed to take care of overpopulation...
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