Lag in Throttle response

martelds · 05-08-2017, 02:05 PM

Ok, so I experienced something weird the other day. Some people complain about the throttle response on their SS, but for me I figured out exactly how to apply throttle and when throttle kicks in, etc. So I was driving on a very hilly curvy road, many hairpin curves. Speed limit is about 10 mph, I was doing 25 going down hill, then I cut into the corner downshifted into 2nd, I have a 6M, and applied the throttle heavy, Really put my foot into it. And in that moment I had no response, Like I didn't' mash the throttle. It hesitated for 1 sec, but it was a huge pause, then it took off. I have yet to experience this hesitation before. If I was on a track i would have gotten passed it was so bad. And please bite me, if you say you shouldn't be going that fast in a 10. I want to talk about the car, not my driving. Any ideas, it was a very odd sensation.

aw113sgte · 05-08-2017, 02:08 PM

We just got ours a few days ago (6spd SS, conv). I experienced the exact same thing on a slow speed twisty road. I was in track mode and kept traction control on.

martelds · 05-08-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aw113sgte

We just got ours a few days ago (6spd SS, conv). I experienced the exact same thing on a slow speed twisty road. I was in track mode and kept traction control on.

I was in Track mode too, normally I drive in Sport mode. I'm sure it's ok, but it was weird.

shaffe · 05-08-2017, 02:17 PM

If it's anything like the Mustang its because the throttle is controlled by electronics and not a cable anymore. Drive by wire, at least that is what caused the hesitation in the Mustang. Drove me crazy in my 07. I could never cut a good light like I could in my 04. I eventually had the car tuned and it took some of the lag away but not all of it

00 Trans Ram · 05-08-2017, 02:25 PM

I had/have that same thing. Bought a throttle controller to combat it (they're advertised to "get rid of lag"). Long story short - they don't get rid of lag.

aw113sgte · 05-08-2017, 02:34 PM

I don't see how this could ever be considered acceptable in a sports car. Coming from the motorcycle world, new ones have all sorts of traction control and DBW and have none of this lag.

SS 1LE · 05-08-2017, 02:39 PM

You said traction and stability control were on correct? It was probably one of those nannies kicking in...try it with them both off next time.

init4fun · 05-08-2017, 02:49 PM

Had this happen with a rental 1SS while running around in the hills in southern CA. Car was an A8 but I had it in sport and using the paddles. At really slow speeds in 2nd it would hesitate then take off. I figured out how to turn the traction and stability off and it went away. Guess it didn't like me hitting the fun pedal with the front tires turned. Issue was never there is the wheels were pointed straight and went away with while turning with everything turned off. Again this was the auto but.........

martelds · 05-08-2017, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

You said traction and stability control were on correct? It was probably one of those nannies kicking in...try it with them both off next time.

Acutely I didn't say, but yes they were on. That could be a possible explanation. I should go back to that hill and turn off the nannies. Don't get me wrong, I love my Camaro and 99% of the time it's a monster.

00 Trans Ram · 05-08-2017, 02:51 PM

I drive and M6. Turn all nannies off, and it still happens.

mbar · 05-08-2017, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

You said traction and stability control were on correct? It was probably one of those nannies kicking in...try it with them both off next time.

+1
Be careful....many times the TC is saving you from yourself by cutting the throttle.

crazydmc · 05-08-2017, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00 Trans Ram

I drive and M6. Turn all nannies off, and it still happens.

you didn't turn off ALL the nannies...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbar

...Be careful....many times the TC is saving you from yourself by cutting the throttle.

sorry, I couldn't resist.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-08-2017, 03:33 PM

I have said this for the last 1 1/2 years now, this car does not drive like my ideal sports car, when this happens its at any time on my car, and at the track it does the opposite, when you let up it does not, was coming it to a turn let of to push the clutch in to down shift and car kept going faster till i hit the brakes, and no cruse was not on.

MSMYYC · 05-08-2017, 03:50 PM

It kind of sounds like the computer cut timing due to a shift it thought would upset the car and or clutch.

05-08-2017, 02:05 PM	#1
martelds Go Arizona Cardinals Drives: 2006 GMC Duramax 2500 HD, 2016 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 321	Lag in Throttle response Ok, so I experienced something weird the other day. Some people complain about the throttle response on their SS, but for me I figured out exactly how to apply throttle and when throttle kicks in, etc. So I was driving on a very hilly curvy road, many hairpin curves. Speed limit is about 10 mph, I was doing 25 going down hill, then I cut into the corner downshifted into 2nd, I have a 6M, and applied the throttle heavy, Really put my foot into it. And in that moment I had no response, Like I didn't' mash the throttle. It hesitated for 1 sec, but it was a huge pause, then it took off. I have yet to experience this hesitation before. If I was on a track i would have gotten passed it was so bad. And please bite me, if you say you shouldn't be going that fast in a 10. I want to talk about the car, not my driving. Any ideas, it was a very odd sensation. __________________ 2015 Nissan Murano SL with Tech Package 2006 Lifted GMC Duramax 2500 HD. Lot's of custom parts! 2016 2SS Garnet Red 2SS,6 Speed, NPP, MRC, Adrenaline Red interior, Black Rally Stripes, NAV, Sunroof, Corvette Z51 Black Wheels, Black Front Fascia, aFe / PFADT Suspension Lowering Springs, Black High Rise Rear Spoiler. High flow headers, E85, Roto-Fab Cold Air, MSD Atomic AirForce Intake. aFe / PFADT Front & Rear Sway Bar. Pushing 520 to the Rear Wheels

05-08-2017, 02:39 PM	#7
SS 1LE マスタング = 遅い Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 7,061	You said traction and stability control were on correct? It was probably one of those nannies kicking in...try it with them both off next time. __________________

05-08-2017, 03:50 PM	#14
MSMYYC @maplefed Drives: 16' MBM 2SS, Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: So-Cal Posts: 116	It kind of sounds like the computer cut timing due to a shift it thought would upset the car and or clutch. __________________ @maplefed

05-08-2017, 02:08 PM	#2
aw113sgte Drives: none Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: WI Posts: 16	We just got ours a few days ago (6spd SS, conv). I experienced the exact same thing on a slow speed twisty road. I was in track mode and kept traction control on.

05-08-2017, 02:25 PM	#5
00 Trans Ram Drives: 2017 2SS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: United States Posts: 636	I had/have that same thing. Bought a throttle controller to combat it (they're advertised to "get rid of lag"). Long story short - they don't get rid of lag.

05-08-2017, 02:34 PM	#6
aw113sgte Drives: none Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: WI Posts: 16	I don't see how this could ever be considered acceptable in a sports car. Coming from the motorcycle world, new ones have all sorts of traction control and DBW and have none of this lag.

05-08-2017, 02:49 PM	#8
init4fun Drives: 2017 50th Anniversary Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: illinois Posts: 424	Had this happen with a rental 1SS while running around in the hills in southern CA. Car was an A8 but I had it in sport and using the paddles. At really slow speeds in 2nd it would hesitate then take off. I figured out how to turn the traction and stability off and it went away. Guess it didn't like me hitting the fun pedal with the front tires turned. Issue was never there is the wheels were pointed straight and went away with while turning with everything turned off. Again this was the auto but.........

05-08-2017, 02:51 PM	#10
00 Trans Ram Drives: 2017 2SS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: United States Posts: 636	I drive and M6. Turn all nannies off, and it still happens.

05-08-2017, 03:33 PM	#13
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	I have said this for the last 1 1/2 years now, this car does not drive like my ideal sports car, when this happens its at any time on my car, and at the track it does the opposite, when you let up it does not, was coming it to a turn let of to push the clutch in to down shift and car kept going faster till i hit the brakes, and no cruse was not on.

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