Polish before you wax!

Glen e · 12-11-2016, 11:41 AM

Meguires 205 -any good finishing polish is the secret to good details, not the wax or seal!

Joe M 2012 2SS · 12-11-2016, 12:46 PM

One of the most overlooked things by people polishing their cars for the first time is use of light. Without proper lighting, you can't see defects, and you can't correct what you can't see.

SSport16 · 12-11-2016, 02:54 PM

Yeah definitely need good lighting. I like to do mine in my garage, have 6500K daylight bulbs in my shop lights in the garage, can see everything on the car then.

CAM-FIFTY · 12-12-2016, 09:11 AM

Glen,
Where does this step fit in the master doc plan? Or this should be done separately once a year? thanks!

Glen e · 12-12-2016, 09:49 AM

This step is the BF total polish and seal in the plan for a new car. For a new car you need a polish that is super mild, like TPNS. Meguires 205 replaces TPNS after a year or two when you have a few more micro scratches, swirls, etc. that being said, this is all minutiae, the two are relatively interchangeable.

CAM-FIFTY · 12-12-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

This step is the BF total polish and seal in the plan for a new car. For a new car you need a polish that is super mild, like TPNS. Meguires 205 replaces TPNS after a year or two when you have a few more micro scratches, swirls, etc. that being said, this is all minutiae, the two are relatively interchangeable.

Ok, sounds good. I'll get this one once I run out of the TPNS bottle I have.

Glen e · 12-12-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CAM-FIFTY

Ok, sounds good. I'll get this one once I run out of the TPNS bottle I have.

Just to clarify, I would polish once a year. And if I don't really find a lot of micro scratches, it may be longer than that. All I'm saying is if you're going to detail, and do a major detail, polishing is the secret.

SSport16 · 12-12-2016, 10:19 AM

I just polished again about a month ago, not a lot of micro scratches, so I used TPNS this time and it worked great. Will see what next year brings and then change if I need to.

Glen e · 12-12-2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SSport16

I just polished again about a month ago, not a lot of micro scratches, so I used TPNS this time and it worked great. Will see what next year brings and then change if I need to.

Yup.....most of my micro scratches were at the trunk loading area from general use. It's also why I'm never concerned about using a cover, I'll get to them later in the year. Micro scratches and light swirls are inevitable sooner or later, I don't lose sleep over them like some do....they come right out with an orbital and polish.

SSport16 · 12-12-2016, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

Yup.....most of my micro scratches were are the trunk loading area from general use. It's also why I'm never concerned about using a cover, I'll get to them later in the year. Micro scratches and light swirls are inevitable sooner or later, I don't lose sleep over them like some do....they come right out.

Exactly!

Joe M 2012 2SS · 12-12-2016, 06:18 PM

Just because you have a new car doesn't mean the paint isn't jacked up.

Here is a pic of a brand new 2016 Camaro, with DISO (Dealership installed swirl option)

SSport16 · 12-12-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

Just because you have a new car doesn't mean the paint isn't jacked up.

Here is a pic of a brand new 2016 Camaro, with DISO (Dealership installed swirl option)

That is freaking horrible! Not suprised though.

Joe M 2012 2SS · 12-12-2016, 08:41 PM

This is why using proper light on the paint is so crucial. Finishing polish is not going to remove damage like that. Compound is needed, followed by finishing polish to maximize gloss/depth.

So instead of the paint looking like that, it looks like this, like it should look when it's new.

SSport16 · 12-13-2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

This is why using proper light on the paint is so crucial. Finishing polish is not going to remove damage like that. Compound is needed, followed by finishing polish to maximize gloss/depth.

So instead of the paint looking like that, it looks like this, like it should look when it's new.

Last December when I picked mine up I had a ton of scratches that I had to compound out with my polisher before I polished, but paint looks great now. Those were from the factory/delivery process, dealer only had the car off the truck for 20 mins or so when I got there, they were instructed not to touch the car and they were great about it.

12-11-2016, 11:41 AM	#1
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	Polish before you wax! Meguires 205 -any good finishing polish is the secret to good details, not the wax or seal! __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

12-11-2016, 02:54 PM	#3
SSport16 Drives: 2016 Garnet Red Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,435	Yeah definitely need good lighting. I like to do mine in my garage, have 6500K daylight bulbs in my shop lights in the garage, can see everything on the car then. __________________ 2SS Camaro, Garnet Red, Adrenaline Red, NPP, MRC, A8, 5 Split Spoke Bright Silver Wheels (56W) 1100 Status - 7/24/15 (Ordered) 3800 Status - 10/13/15 (Built) 6000 Status - 12/22/15 (Delivered)

12-12-2016, 09:11 AM	#4
CAM-FIFTY Drives: 2016 Red Hot 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: MA Posts: 486	Glen, Where does this step fit in the master doc plan? Or this should be done separately once a year? thanks! __________________ 2017 Black Z06 2LZ M7 2016 Red Hot 2SS A8 - Sold My Camaro journey here and here.

12-12-2016, 09:49 AM	#5
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	This step is the BF total polish and seal in the plan for a new car. For a new car you need a polish that is super mild, like TPNS. Meguires 205 replaces TPNS after a year or two when you have a few more micro scratches, swirls, etc. that being said, this is all minutiae, the two are relatively interchangeable. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

12-12-2016, 10:19 AM	#8
SSport16 Drives: 2016 Garnet Red Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,435	I just polished again about a month ago, not a lot of micro scratches, so I used TPNS this time and it worked great. Will see what next year brings and then change if I need to. __________________ 2SS Camaro, Garnet Red, Adrenaline Red, NPP, MRC, A8, 5 Split Spoke Bright Silver Wheels (56W) 1100 Status - 7/24/15 (Ordered) 3800 Status - 10/13/15 (Built) 6000 Status - 12/22/15 (Delivered)

12-12-2016, 06:18 PM	#11
Joe M 2012 2SS Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shelby NC Posts: 2,549 View My Garage	Just because you have a new car doesn't mean the paint isn't jacked up. Here is a pic of a brand new 2016 Camaro, with DISO (Dealership installed swirl option) __________________ Roto-Fab intake, SW 1 7/8" LT w/hi flow cats, Flowmaster outlaw exhaust, UDP, 160* stat, Circle D 3200, Moroso catch can, TCI line lock, Zex Nitrous 125 shot, 3.91 gear, Eaton True-trac, DSS 1000hp axles.

12-12-2016, 08:41 PM	#13
Joe M 2012 2SS Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shelby NC Posts: 2,549 View My Garage	This is why using proper light on the paint is so crucial. Finishing polish is not going to remove damage like that. Compound is needed, followed by finishing polish to maximize gloss/depth. So instead of the paint looking like that, it looks like this, like it should look when it's new. __________________ Roto-Fab intake, SW 1 7/8" LT w/hi flow cats, Flowmaster outlaw exhaust, UDP, 160* stat, Circle D 3200, Moroso catch can, TCI line lock, Zex Nitrous 125 shot, 3.91 gear, Eaton True-trac, DSS 1000hp axles.

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