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Old 06-11-2022, 11:02 AM   #15
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The biggest benefit to the Adm tank is that it very quickly eliminates any air in the circuit. After I R&R’d my supercharger for porting it only took a few short minutes to completely burp the system. All I had to do was start the car and let it idle with the cap removed from the Adm tank and you can see all the air burping out immediately. The little bit of added capacity is a bonus.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:51 PM   #16
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Soon hopefully, been busy lately with other priorities and the car is getting retuned. The adm only adds 1/2-3/4 quart of capacity, if your looking for more then definitely don't get this tank. I only added to make burping the supercharger easier
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Old 06-12-2022, 04:52 PM   #17
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CSP used to make a trunk tank that was 5 or 6-gallons I think. It’s probably not what you’re looking for, but might be worth revisiting. Maybe. Maybe not.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:29 AM   #18
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Soon hopefully, been busy lately with other priorities and the car is getting retuned. The adm only adds 1/2-3/4 quart of capacity, if your looking for more then definitely don't get this tank. I only added to make burping the supercharger easier
will the cordes 1 gallon also serve the same purpose for getting the air out?
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:06 AM   #19
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I got home from a 1/2 of driving in warm weather (driving easy for the most part) and was surprised how hot everything was. Even the current expansion tank was almost too hot to touch... makes me wonder how effective the under-hood tanks even are?



I can understand the benefits of putting a larger tank in the trunk... but believe the fender tank would be just as effective...


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Old 06-13-2022, 10:19 AM   #20
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I got home from a 1/2 of driving in warm weather (driving easy for the most part) and was surprised how hot everything was. Even the current expansion tank was almost too hot to touch... makes me wonder how effective the under-hood tanks even are?



I can understand the benefits of putting a larger tank in the trunk... but believe the fender tank would be just as effective...


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Trunk tank does a few things that you won't get with a fender tank. One is capacity, typically they have ~6 gallons of water. The more water you have, the longer it takes to get it excessively hot. Another is just keeping the bulk of the water away from the source of the heat. For those that drag race, it is much easier to dump multiple bags of ice in a trunk tank before making a pass. I get that's a specific use case.

The last thing, and this 'could' be added to any tank I suppose, but it is easier to add a larger pump to move the water faster in the rear. The stock pump is very weak in comparison, and at least in 2017, doesn't run 100% of the time the car is on. They might have changed this in later years.
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:07 AM   #21
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will the cordes 1 gallon also serve the same purpose for getting the air out?
Yes, I believe any tank added should bleed the system of air. But the tank should be the highest point to achieve it. At least my understanding
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:12 AM   #22
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The biggest benefit to the Adm tank is that it very quickly eliminates any air in the circuit. After I R&R’d my supercharger for porting it only took a few short minutes to completely burp the system. All I had to do was start the car and let it idle with the cap removed from the Adm tank and you can see all the air burping out immediately. The little bit of added capacity is a bonus.
You can also jump the relay with a fused jumper to run the pump while the engine is off to making bleeding easier
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Old 06-13-2022, 12:26 PM   #23
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Old 06-13-2022, 07:52 PM   #24
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I got home from a 1/2 of driving in warm weather (driving easy for the most part) and was surprised how hot everything was. Even the current expansion tank was almost too hot to touch... makes me wonder how effective the under-hood tanks even are?



I can understand the benefits of putting a larger tank in the trunk... but believe the fender tank would be just as effective...


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well these bigger tanks aren't going to do much. they are metal and hold a lot of fluid. once up to temp which takes what? 20 mins of driving? it'll KEEP that temp probably for a very long time! a large plastic tank or even the small plastic tanks like that ADM are probably best.
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Old 06-13-2022, 07:58 PM   #25
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Trunk tank does a few things that you won't get with a fender tank. One is capacity, typically they have ~6 gallons of water. The more water you have, the longer it takes to get it excessively hot. Another is just keeping the bulk of the water away from the source of the heat. For those that drag race, it is much easier to dump multiple bags of ice in a trunk tank before making a pass. I get that's a specific use case.

The last thing, and this 'could' be added to any tank I suppose, but it is easier to add a larger pump to move the water faster in the rear. The stock pump is very weak in comparison, and at least in 2017, doesn't run 100% of the time the car is on. They might have changed this in later years.
adding ice right into the tank? wouldn't that contaminate the fluid and clog the cores? maybe freeze your own coolant or get it down to freezing or freeze distilled water?
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:16 PM   #26
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adding ice right into the tank? wouldn't that contaminate the fluid and clog the cores? maybe freeze your own coolant or get it down to freezing or freeze distilled water?
Yeah, it quickly turns into just cold water. This has been a common practice for racers for many years. Over 3 years with my current supercharger doing this and no issues. You’ll see TT Lambos, Vipers, etc. dumping ice in for their A2W at the track as well. In the winter it’s good to mix in anti-freeze if it sits where it’s under freezing.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:38 PM   #27
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Yeah, it quickly turns into just cold water. This has been a common practice for racers for many years. Over 3 years with my current supercharger doing this and no issues. You’ll see TT Lambos, Vipers, etc. dumping ice in for their A2W at the track as well. In the winter it’s good to mix in anti-freeze if it sits where it’s under freezing.
just sounds terrible! ice is so dirty, not to mention the electrolyte build up. i mean 3 years isnt long but a clogged core will happen. look at any hot water tank or an older radiator cut in half. the scales huge.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:48 PM   #28
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just sounds terrible! ice is so dirty, not to mention the electrolyte build up. i mean 3 years isnt long but a clogged core will happen. look at any hot water tank or an older radiator cut in half. the scales huge.
I mean, we are talking about performance and racing. The very nature of that is pushing the limits of parts. That said, I’ve yet to hear of an issue icing a car down. I’ve had this exact tank/water pump setup for 5 years across 3 different superchargers. Had an under the hood tank on my CTS-V prior to this that also got ice for 3 years.

Would using frozen distilled water be better, sure. Just like not tuning the car to make 6, 7, 800+ RWHP on stock internals would be better for them. I have gone through 30 lbs of ice at events, so it’s not practical to freeze that much ahead of time.
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