help with seat belts

dpevans · 07-14-2021, 07:29 PM

needs some help, after my first day at the track my instructor suggested getting a harness. The one he had in his BMW attached to the back seat belts, the RH one came over the top of the Right shoulder and the left one came around your lap. I searched everywhere and cannot find the kind he had, does anyone have any idea what I am talking about and where I can find them.

Baddawg53 · 07-14-2021, 08:26 PM

Kinda sounds like a 3 point racing harness. Try searching those, not sure if that's exactly what you're looking for.

olblue75 · 07-14-2021, 11:02 PM

Scroth makes them right??

RamAir02 · 07-15-2021, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpevans

needs some help, after my first day at the track my instructor suggested getting a harness. The one he had in his BMW attached to the back seat belts, the RH one came over the top of the Right shoulder and the left one came around your lap. I searched everywhere and cannot find the kind he had, does anyone have any idea what I am talking about and where I can find them.

You may be thinking of the Schroth QuickFit Pro https://www.schrothracing.com/item/s...ning-Harnesses

However, it is not designed / approved for our cars. There are several threads discussing harness options, but the consensus seems to be that they're not recommended without a 4 point roll cage and different seats.

dpevans · 07-15-2021, 02:41 PM

Thanks for the feed back, Guess more research is needed. Looking at the Rallye Cross 4 point but then I see where some sanctioned events won't allow them.

Heartbreaker · 07-15-2021, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpevans

needs some help, after my first day at the track my instructor suggested getting a harness. The one he had in his BMW attached to the back seat belts, the RH one came over the top of the Right shoulder and the left one came around your lap. I searched everywhere and cannot find the kind he had, does anyone have any idea what I am talking about and where I can find them.

Simpson makes a Hans Device made for the three point OEM seatbelts.

N Camarolina · 07-15-2021, 08:48 PM

The OP is asking about a harness, not a Hans or equivalent.

Brings up a good point though. To the OP: If you go down the path of installing a harness to restrain your body, you would be very wise to add a Hans device to prevent breaking your neck in event of a forward crash.

kropscamaro16 · 07-16-2021, 11:05 AM

unless you want to do a half cage/harness bar and seats/harness dont do it

weemus · 07-16-2021, 12:53 PM

Can't use the quick fit Schroth ASM or equivalent harnesses in our car. Only way to go is:
1. 2 seats that support a proper harness
2. 2 harnesses
3. Harness bar (at a minimum), might as well go half cage
4. Might as well go with a neck restraint (Hans)

I have had others say the same due to the pace a 1LE can run. Its a personal choice and depends on your long term goals as well as how much you intend to track.

carguy55 · 07-19-2021, 05:39 AM

Sort of going to a full harness you can lock the seat belt by pulling it all the way out and letting it retract. Do this with the seat moved back some and then move the seat up to lock yourself in place. The HANS you can use with the 3 point belts is the Simpson Hybrid-S, which is not cheap but works great with the 3 point or 5/6 point. I used this method for a couple years before go to a racing seat and 6 point

07-14-2021, 07:29 PM	#1
dpevans Drives: 2024 Riverside Blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 1,206	help with seat belts needs some help, after my first day at the track my instructor suggested getting a harness. The one he had in his BMW attached to the back seat belts, the RH one came over the top of the Right shoulder and the left one came around your lap. I searched everywhere and cannot find the kind he had, does anyone have any idea what I am talking about and where I can find them.

07-14-2021, 11:02 PM	#3
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07-16-2021, 11:05 AM	#8
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,813	unless you want to do a half cage/harness bar and seats/harness dont do it __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

07-19-2021, 05:39 AM	#10
carguy55 Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,487 View My Garage	Sort of going to a full harness you can lock the seat belt by pulling it all the way out and letting it retract. Do this with the seat moved back some and then move the seat up to lock yourself in place. The HANS you can use with the 3 point belts is the Simpson Hybrid-S, which is not cheap but works great with the 3 point or 5/6 point. I used this method for a couple years before go to a racing seat and 6 point __________________ www.youtube.com/@Racer_Mike87

07-14-2021, 08:26 PM	#2
Baddawg53 Drives: 17 hyper blue 2SS M6 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NorCal Posts: 594	Kinda sounds like a 3 point racing harness. Try searching those, not sure if that's exactly what you're looking for.

07-15-2021, 02:41 PM	#5
dpevans Drives: 2024 Riverside Blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 1,206	Thanks for the feed back, Guess more research is needed. Looking at the Rallye Cross 4 point but then I see where some sanctioned events won't allow them.

07-15-2021, 08:48 PM	#7
N Camarolina Drives: 2021 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 802	The OP is asking about a harness, not a Hans or equivalent. Brings up a good point though. To the OP: If you go down the path of installing a harness to restrain your body, you would be very wise to add a Hans device to prevent breaking your neck in event of a forward crash.

07-16-2021, 12:53 PM	#9
weemus Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 167 View My Garage	Can't use the quick fit Schroth ASM or equivalent harnesses in our car. Only way to go is: 1. 2 seats that support a proper harness 2. 2 harnesses 3. Harness bar (at a minimum), might as well go half cage 4. Might as well go with a neck restraint (Hans) I have had others say the same due to the pace a 1LE can run. Its a personal choice and depends on your long term goals as well as how much you intend to track.

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