2019 SS 1LE Quarter Mile and 0 - 60 REVEALED!

ModernCamaroZ28Fan · 01-10-2019, 12:55 PM

During a Road and Track competitive review, the 2019 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE's track time was revealed, being on par with the 2019 Ford Mustang GT (As expected from GM). It does 0 - 60 in 3.9 seconds, which is about a tenth of a second faster than the pre-facelift SS 1LE, and this is only in manual, meaning the aerodynamics seem to be really 'paying off'.

You can expect the standard Camaro SS with 10-speed to offer 0 - 60 in 3.8 seconds.

DaveC113 · 01-10-2019, 01:03 PM

Yes, the technical explanation is the air wants to get away from the ugly, so less drag. It's genius imo.

Ryephile · 01-10-2019, 01:53 PM

Aerodynamics impacting 0-60 sprint? That's enough internet for today.

vtirocz · 01-10-2019, 01:54 PM

The 1/4 mile time (12.3) is identical to runs produced by the '16-'18 SS / SS 1LE. That 0-60 time is within run to run variation. Not even GM is advertising an acceleration improvement with the refresh.

TRZ06 · 01-10-2019, 02:08 PM

0-60 is really a dumb matrix.

So much of it depends on tire condition, road surface, ambient temps., the operator working the clutch and throttle.

A better matrix is the rolling 5-60 or whatever you want to use. But even then, just new tires to old tires can change that number quite a lot.

Maybe this car had brand new fresh tires.

JaxChris · 01-10-2019, 03:10 PM

Frontal area aero doesn't really come into play until well after 60mph. Since 0-60 is a static variable, anything short of a massive rear wing won't play a role. It's more likely they got a better sample of the LT1 under the hood than their previous test car.

They should really stick these cars on a climate controlled dyno so they can also record that information before comparing 1 year versus another. More likely to glean a proper explanation for certain results "within the noise", as Motor Trend likes to call it.

oneredry · 01-10-2019, 03:29 PM

since when do they now limit the speed to 165. it states drag limited, but that isn't even close to being right... its like 180ish

ModernCamaroZ28Fan · 01-10-2019, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oneredry

since when do they now limit the speed to 165. it states drag limited, but that isn't even close to being right... its like 180ish

...since 2016

TJay74 · 01-11-2019, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernCamaroZ28Fan

...since 2016

Incorrect, the Camaro SS is not speed limited, it is drag limited. I have been in the OEM calibration and there was no limiter in my 1LE calibration.

KingLT1 · 01-11-2019, 11:53 AM

There is a limiter for the A8.

wnta1ss · 01-12-2019, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJay74

Incorrect, the Camaro SS is not speed limited, it is drag limited. I have been in the OEM calibration and there was no limiter in my 1LE calibration.

The Camaro SS Coupe does indeed have a speed limiter in the ECM. JDP saw it in their 2016, and my 2017 definitely had it, set to 180. Don't know whether the stock car could exceed that by just changing to a higher number in the limiter, but the limiter is there.

Where in the OEM calibration did you look for the limiter in your 1LE?

KingLT1 · 01-12-2019, 02:05 PM

2016 Camaro SS A8 stock tune file.

JamesNoBrakes · 01-13-2019, 03:58 PM

M2C should take it every day in a straight line, they are dynoing around 405hp and 450-475tq, at the wheels, compare this to the SAE HP/tq of the LT1 measured at the crankshaft. Add the 7spd DCT and about 100lbs less weight, it's no mystery why it'll go faster in a straight line...around a track however, the 1LE kills it.

7speed · 02-06-2019, 04:49 PM

Bump because I don't know how this thread got here

01-10-2019, 12:55 PM	#1
ModernCamaroZ28Fan LT1_Radenso Drives: a 2 spd water bottle Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: In your trunk Posts: 293	2019 SS 1LE Quarter Mile and 0 - 60 REVEALED! During a Road and Track competitive review, the 2019 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE's track time was revealed, being on par with the 2019 Ford Mustang GT (As expected from GM). It does 0 - 60 in 3.9 seconds, which is about a tenth of a second faster than the pre-facelift SS 1LE, and this is only in manual, meaning the aerodynamics seem to be really 'paying off'. You can expect the standard Camaro SS with 10-speed to offer 0 - 60 in 3.8 seconds. Attached Images

01-10-2019, 01:53 PM	#3
Ryephile Hot Dog Drives: '17 1SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,937	Aerodynamics impacting 0-60 sprint? That's enough internet for today. __________________ 2017 "M1SS1LE" in Hyper Blue w/PDR

01-10-2019, 01:54 PM	#4
vtirocz Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indy Posts: 2,460	The 1/4 mile time (12.3) is identical to runs produced by the '16-'18 SS / SS 1LE. That 0-60 time is within run to run variation. Not even GM is advertising an acceleration improvement with the refresh. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS, M6, Hurst shifter, Hyper Blue, NPP, Gray Split Spoke Wheels Best 1/4 Mile: 12.24 @ 115.9 mph

01-10-2019, 02:08 PM	#5
TRZ06 Drives: 22' Porsche PDK GT4 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,013	0-60 is really a dumb matrix. So much of it depends on tire condition, road surface, ambient temps., the operator working the clutch and throttle. A better matrix is the rolling 5-60 or whatever you want to use. But even then, just new tires to old tires can change that number quite a lot. Maybe this car had brand new fresh tires. __________________ Current: 22' Porsche PDK GT4 (MCS 2-way remote dampers) Previous: 18' NFG 2SS *1LE* (ZL1 1LE solid rear cradle bushings & Corsa Exhaust) 16' F80 M3 (Ohlin R/T Coilovers) 13' Audi TTRS (APR Stage 1, MSS Springs) 09' C6 Z06 08' E90 M3 06' 335i (KW V2 Coilovers) 03' C5 Z06

01-10-2019, 03:29 PM	#7
oneredry HYPER SS Drives: 2016 Supercharged 2SS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Troy OH Posts: 1,252	since when do they now limit the speed to 165. it states drag limited, but that isn't even close to being right... its like 180ish __________________ Ordered: 1/15/2016 2000 status 02/01/16 3000 status 02/29/16 3400 status 03/07/16 TPW of 03/14/16 4200 status 03/17/16 in transit! Delivered 03/23/16 2SS Hyper Blue \| 6M \| NPP \| Mag ride \| ceramic white Int. \| Black out bow ties \| P3 Gauge\| Front splitter. \| 6 pot upgraded brembo brakes. \| Magnuson Supercharger/95MM pulley \| Rotofab Intake \| ZL1 side skirts \| HRE FF04 wheels - Michelin PSS4 \| ZL1 add ons rock guards and lift points. \| AWE touring - resinated catback with link pipes.

01-10-2019, 01:03 PM	#2
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,859	Yes, the technical explanation is the air wants to get away from the ugly, so less drag. It's genius imo.

01-10-2019, 03:10 PM	#6
JaxChris Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,298	Frontal area aero doesn't really come into play until well after 60mph. Since 0-60 is a static variable, anything short of a massive rear wing won't play a role. It's more likely they got a better sample of the LT1 under the hood than their previous test car. They should really stick these cars on a climate controlled dyno so they can also record that information before comparing 1 year versus another. More likely to glean a proper explanation for certain results "within the noise", as Motor Trend likes to call it.

01-11-2019, 11:53 AM	#10
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,789	There is a limiter for the A8. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

01-12-2019, 02:05 PM	#12
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,789	2016 Camaro SS A8 stock tune file. Attached Images __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

01-13-2019, 03:58 PM	#13
JamesNoBrakes Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AK Posts: 2,299	M2C should take it every day in a straight line, they are dynoing around 405hp and 450-475tq, at the wheels, compare this to the SAE HP/tq of the LT1 measured at the crankshaft. Add the 7spd DCT and about 100lbs less weight, it's no mystery why it'll go faster in a straight line...around a track however, the 1LE kills it. __________________ Everything happens for a reason, except when it doesn't, but even then, you can, in hindsight, fabricate a reason that satisfies your belief system. 2018 2SS 1LE 2023 Colorado ZR2 2022 Stinger GT-line AWD

02-06-2019, 04:49 PM	#14
7speed Drives: 21 SS Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 322	Bump because I don't know how this thread got here __________________

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