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Old 04-12-2018, 04:53 PM   #1023
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Well, to be fair, the 2018 Mustang is quite possibly the ugliest version they've ever released. I just don't know what's going on with these front ends anymore...
Have you ever seen a Mustang II?

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Old 04-12-2018, 04:55 PM   #1024
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there you go. we're all just 'Haters' .
No one liked the 5th. No one liked the 2016.
It's sad that this is the mentality that he has. If we don't like it, we're not allowed to voice our opinion or we'll be called a hater? He's lying by saying that everyone that has seen it in person loved it. There's just no way that is true. Maybe they just didn't want to say that they didn't care for it to his face.

I love Camaros and I sell these things. I would have zero problem telling Al that as of right now, I don't care for the front bumper design. Will it grow on me? Maybe.

I don't like being labeled as a hater though. I've owned a lot of these cars over the years and I'm surrounded by them daily. I think I'm allowed to have an opinion on them that is not his own.
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Old 04-12-2018, 04:55 PM   #1025
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It's sad that this is the mentality that he has. If we don't like it, we're not allowed to voice our opinion or we'll be called a hater? He's lying by saying that everyone that has seen it in person loved it. There's just no way that is true. Maybe they just didn't want to say that they didn't care for it to his face.

I love Camaros and I sell these things. I would have zero problem telling Al that as of right now, I don't care for the front bumper design. Will it grow on me? Maybe.

I don't like being labeled as a hater though. I've owned a lot of these cars over the years and I'm surrounded by them daily. I think I'm allowed to have an opinion on them that is not his own.
Not like they ever needed a bail out or anything
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Old 04-12-2018, 04:56 PM   #1026
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Not like they ever needed a bail out or anything
What the hell does that have to do with any of the conversation in this thread? Don't be that person.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:01 PM   #1027
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For those who don't believe the "hater" comment, go to Al's fb page.

He basically dissed one guy and said that since he didn't own a Camaro now his opinion didn't count. It backfired as several owners then piled on Al.

Sad that they ignore feedback like this while only taking to heart the comments by "the emperor has no clothes" crowd.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:02 PM   #1028
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I was responding to someone who was saying the reason why the Camaro isn't taking off in sales is due to lack of GM sponsored pricing help.

But good job bringing an irrelevant point into the mix.
Relevent to why Chevy isn’t putting “cash on the hood” but Ford and FCA are.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:06 PM   #1029
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It's sad that this is the mentality that he has. If we don't like it, we're not allowed to voice our opinion or we'll be called a hater? He's lying by saying that everyone that has seen it in person loved it. There's just no way that is true. Maybe they just didn't want to say that they didn't care for it to his face.

I love Camaros and I sell these things. I would have zero problem telling Al that as of right now, I don't care for the front bumper design. Will it grow on me? Maybe.

I don't like being labeled as a hater though. I've owned a lot of these cars over the years and I'm surrounded by them daily. I think I'm allowed to have an opinion on them that is not his own.
Did I miss something, Did Al O. respond to the negative response about the 2019 by calling them haters?

Every journalist article I've seen either bashes it or calls it questionable. At best they stay nuetral. I haven't seen one say they really like it.

All the car sites including social media and Camaro forums are ripping g it to shreds.

Who exactly is this refresh for? In one hand they said they talked to all the enthusiasts on what to do with the 6th gen which was extremely ignorant and short sighted. Why didn't you talk to the customer who DIDNT buy the Camaro and find out why? I imagine it lands between let's move on past the Transformers and make the windows larger. But instead they double down and make the windows smaller. So this is a car for Camaro fans.

Then the refresh comes out and the Camaro fans don't like it almost unanimously and they're just "haters" and it's not for them???

Team Camaro is in need of a new direction. The engineering is solid, the vision is not. Perhaps they're bitter that the Avista concept is what everyone wanted for looks.

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Old 04-12-2018, 05:20 PM   #1030
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Yep, because it looks like a ZL1.

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This refresh would sell like hot cakes.


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Old 04-12-2018, 05:25 PM   #1031
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Make it like this, and get my money.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:31 PM   #1032
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Al O is a blowhard jackass, someone really should put a muzzle on him or send him out to pasture.
And you're the exact type of person who we don't need in this community.

Attacking Al O. personally is stupid.

If anything you're making yourself look like you're the one who needs to be muzzled or taken out to pasture.

(And this is coming from a self-proclaimed professional troll...)
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:36 PM   #1033
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Yep, because it looks like a ZL1.


Just enough. Literally all that I changed was the fangs handing all the way down, moving the bow tie to the top, and color the cross bar.


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Old 04-12-2018, 05:39 PM   #1034
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Make it like this, and get my money.
Just my opinion, but something doesn't look quite right with this setup. However a lot of others seem to like it.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:41 PM   #1035
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And you're the exact type of person who we don't need in this community.

Attacking Al O. personally is stupid.

If anything you're making yourself look like you're the one who needs to be muzzled or taken out to pasture.

(And this is coming from a self-proclaimed professional troll...)
Ah yes, my apologies, I'll go make amends..

Al O is fine, peace and blessings be upon his name.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:43 PM   #1036
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I'm starting to like it.
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